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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 08:16 PM
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Anyone ever do anything to improve the shift quality of the 4+3 shifter?

More specifically mods to improve speed shifting.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 08:25 PM
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Really can't help but I look forward to some of the possibilities because mine just seems really 'clunky' for a lack of a better word, Dad's 69 4 speed shifts like a hot knife through butter, smooth and quiet, just seems like the 4+3 is soooooo mechanical and rough feeling.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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One of the first modifications I did to my '85 when I bought it new was to add the short shift linkage that was carried by most of the vendors back then. It consisted of two new arms to replace the stock 1/2 and 3/4 arms on the transmission. The hardest part of the install was readjusting the linkages. The reverse arm is not replaced and every time you put it in reverse you can see just how much shorter the forward gears are.

I have found the shifter on these cars to be nearly identical to the Hurst Competition Plus on my '63 and '73. With the short shift kit it's as smooth also. Not very expensive and well worth the effort.

Good luck... GUSTO
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 09:13 PM
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I read that if you remove the lock out rod and replace it, the car will shift a 100x better. I just can not find the replacement rod,
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by GUSTO14
One of the first modifications I did to my '85 when I bought it new was to add the short shift linkage that was carried by most of the vendors back then. It consisted of two new arms to replace the stock 1/2 and 3/4 arms on the transmission. The hardest part of the install was readjusting the linkages. The reverse arm is not replaced and every time you put it in reverse you can see just how much shorter the forward gears are.

I have found the shifter on these cars to be nearly identical to the Hurst Competition Plus on my '63 and '73. With the short shift kit it's as smooth also. Not very expensive and well worth the effort.

Good luck... GUSTO

Also stops hitting your knuckles on the stereo
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 12:49 AM
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If you're shift rod grommets are in good shape, and your neutral alignment is spot on, and you have short shift links, and no excess play in the shifter, it shifts as smooth as margerine. I raced mine at the drag strip and shifted quickly with no missed shifts. Most that I've seen are in disrepair.


If you want to shift like butter though you'll need a ZF or something with internal shift rails.
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by CentralCoaster
I raced mine at the drag strip and shifted quickly with no missed shifts.






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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 01:27 AM
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Like margerine.
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I put a short shifter kit in my roadster a few years back and it has worked like a charm every since. You can pick the kit up at Exklers for $20 and view it at this link:

http://www.ecklers.com/product.asp?p...dept%5Fid=1888

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Is the short shift lever install done from under the car or from the top side?
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 02:21 AM
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Underneath.

You'll have to readjust your shifter alignment afterwards. But this can also be done by feel from underneath, so you don't have to tear the interior apart.
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 01:06 PM
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Good info..Thanks
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by CentralCoaster
Underneath.

You'll have to readjust your shifter alignment afterwards. But this can also be done by feel from underneath, so you don't have to tear the interior apart.
You will also probably have to set up the shifter neutral alignment by either using the correct adjusting gauge or making one from a piece of thin steel stock. This is adjusted from the top. I also lubed my shifter mechanism with copper anti-seize brake grease.
I found that different oils make a difference too. I tried Redline MTL and the trans grated horribly. ( this is not a slating of redline, I tried it because it worked well for me in other applications, so I thought it would in the DN, but it didn't) I used a fully synthetic GL5 75/80 and this proved to work fine for me. I further added a bottle of GM positraction additive as per the GM workshop manual recommendation and this also reduced shift effort a little more.
The 4+3 will never be 'world class' by any stretch of the imagination, but I like it, quirks and all With the short throw arm kit and the above, mine shifts better than it did when I bought it, but I wouldn't like to power shift it... ever...It doesn't shift that good for me to do that.
Dave
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I was really surprised at how well it shifted after super cleaning with a good degreaser and then lube with a good quality lubricant. Made a world of difference
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by pmihaltian
I put a short shifter kit in my roadster a few years back and it has worked like a charm every since. You can pick the kit up at Exklers for $20 and view it at this link:

http://www.ecklers.com/product.asp?p...dept%5Fid=1888

do they sell that for a 93 model?
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackVette00
do they sell that for a 93 model?
no its for the 4 plus 3 only
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