C4 Tech/Performance L98 Corvette and LT1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine

Automatic VS Manual

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 28, 2007 | 12:20 PM
  #41  
ZR!'s Avatar
ZR!
Advanced
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
From: Brighton IL
Default

[QUOTE=rocco16;1559572970]Anyone who claims they haven't felt this way at one time or another, is lying.

No lie, I have never wanted the auto in my ZR1. There is nothing like going from 6th to 3rd at about 70 mph and running it up to 7 grand before hitting 4th at about 115 mph. Really gets the blood pumping!!
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2007 | 12:29 PM
  #42  
Timo's Avatar
Timo
Advanced
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 60
Likes: 1
From: Finland , 1995 LT-4 P-1SC
Default

Originally Posted by mosquiton_001
Ok boys need some opinions here....

Wich should I choose???Automatic or manual??

I am asking because i've never driven an automatic vette.... I've driven others automatic cars (just few because I am in europe and here we mostly use manuals) but none of thoose had a v8 in it....

Some say manual is better because you get better gas mileage and performance (specally if you plan modding the engine) but is off course less confortable, others say that with an auto you can have the pleasure of crusing as well good performance wich is not so far from a manual....


Assuming that i like some sport driving sometime but nothig special (make some wheelspin at the traffic lights when setting off) and I don't plan going to the track ever, but usually I am just going to cruise around "normally" ... Wich one is the best for me???


P.S. some say that cars with an auto trans get more torque to the wheels is that true??


Thanks guys!
My ex Iroc-Z was 350 TPI+TH 700. TH 700 is bad, because four gear is not enough and ratios are too wide !
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2007 | 12:29 PM
  #43  
billybonesmusic's Avatar
billybonesmusic
Pro
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 557
Likes: 0
From: chiefland fl
Default

constipation is good!
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2007 | 12:35 PM
  #44  
Timo's Avatar
Timo
Advanced
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 60
Likes: 1
From: Finland , 1995 LT-4 P-1SC
Default

[QUOTE=ZR!;1559573865]
Originally Posted by rocco16
Anyone who claims they haven't felt this way at one time or another, is lying.

No lie, I have never wanted the auto in my ZR1. There is nothing like going from 6th to 3rd at about 70 mph and running it up to 7 grand before hitting 4th at about 115 mph. Really gets the blood pumping!!
You can't say better !
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2007 | 02:40 AM
  #45  
mosquiton_001's Avatar
mosquiton_001
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
From: Rome Italy
Default

Originally Posted by ScaryFast
No matter which way you go there will be times that you wish you had the other option.

The first time you get stuck in traffic you will wish you had that damn Automatic. Then as soon as you leave the city and hit an open stretch of road you will be pissed that you can't shift it yourself. This is a win-win situation, it's a 'vette, no matter which way you go you will love it.

You just have to decide which thought you're going to have more often - I wish I had a manual or I wish I had an auto.
Well I had always cars with manual shift even if always with rather small engines (the "biggest" I ever had was a 2.0 liter turbo with a 5 speed).. and mostly (90%) of the time I wish I had an automatic....
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2007 | 02:47 AM
  #46  
mosquiton_001's Avatar
mosquiton_001
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
From: Rome Italy
Default

Originally Posted by billybonesmusic
i drink coffee and smoke i need an auto, i say go auto, put a TCI manual valve body in it with reverse pattern shift (too cool) it will kick butt with a bigger stall torque converter. you'll have phun trying to keep it still at the red lights!!! weeeeeeeeeeee


Putting an higher stall converter what does exactly change in the cars' behavior?? (I know It will accelerate faster but why??)
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2007 | 03:27 AM
  #47  
Travis93's Avatar
Travis93
Racer
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 405
Likes: 1
From: Twinsburg OH
Default

Originally Posted by mosquiton_001
Putting an higher stall converter what does exactly change in the cars' behavior?? (I know It will accelerate faster but why??)
Rev up your manual car and drop the clutch, that’s what a high stall does for an auto and why you want to be careful about going too high for a daily driver. The cop pulls up next to you at the light and you cannot get it rolling without spinning the tires. I wander how much the ticket would be for trying to race a cop?
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2007 | 03:56 AM
  #48  
mosquiton_001's Avatar
mosquiton_001
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
From: Rome Italy
Default

Originally Posted by Travis93
Rev up your manual car and drop the clutch, that’s what a high stall does for an auto and why you want to be careful about going too high for a daily driver. The cop pulls up next to you at the light and you cannot get it rolling without spinning the tires. I wander how much the ticket would be for trying to race a cop?

So basically if I put in Drive the trans, leave the brakes and slowly start to accelerate the car will not move until it reaches the stall speed and only then start to take off all of a sudden?? (that would mean the car will be "useless" in the rev range under the stall speed )
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every Model vs Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

2027 Corvette Buyer's Guide: Everything You Need to Know!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

10 Things C8 Corvette Owners Hate (But Won't Tell You)

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

10 Best Corvettes Coming to Barrett-Jackson Palm Beach 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-7

Every Corvette Grand Sport Explained! (C2, C4, C6, C7, & C8)

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Grand Sport & Grand Sport X Launch Alongside All-New 535hp LS6 V8!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

5 Reasons Bad Drivers Crash & 5 Ways to Avoid a Costly Mistake!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Mar 29, 2007 | 07:00 AM
  #49  
93 ragtop's Avatar
93 ragtop
Le Mans Master
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 5,713
Likes: 105
From: Manassas VA
Default

Originally Posted by mosquiton_001
So basically if I put in Drive the trans, leave the brakes and slowly start to accelerate the car will not move until it reaches the stall speed and only then start to take off all of a sudden?? (that would mean the car will be "useless" in the rev range under the stall speed )


NO NO NO, and anybody trying to say that is full of BS. With a automatic, stock, 1400rpm stall converter , you put it in drive and it will start to move at idle. If you floor it, from a standstill, and had a way to monitor rpm vs mph, you would see the rpms go close to 1400 (Flash) before the wheels started turning.
With a 3000 stall converter, put it in drive, and at idle it will start moving. Again floor it and it will flash to 3000 rpms. This allows for a quicker launch when wanted.
When going mid throttle or so, it will stall up some, but not to the full 3000 rpm stall. Again, your 1400 stock converter will do the same as long as you are below the stall rpm.

Again, anyone making such a statement as this: QUOTE (The cop pulls up next to you at the light and you cannot get it rolling without spinning the tires. I wander how much the ticket would be for trying to race a cop?)
Either they have no clue how a stall converter works, or they are just plain trying to mislead you.
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2007 | 07:26 AM
  #50  
carlton_fritz's Avatar
carlton_fritz
Team Owner
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,861
Likes: 94
St. Jude Donor '08-'09
Default

I don't see how there is room for a third pedal. There's not really enough room with just 2.
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2007 | 07:39 AM
  #51  
carlton_fritz's Avatar
carlton_fritz
Team Owner
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,861
Likes: 94
St. Jude Donor '08-'09
Default

Originally Posted by 93 ragtop
When did you grow up? And if I want to flame you, I will drive to PA and re-install your old (custom) chip.

By the way, a real sports car is a vert. And you must be a girl, scared to get your hair messed up to have to drive a hardtop.
My blue eyes hate how bright it is in a convert. I do try to drive with the top out though. Lately I haven't due to all the pollen.
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2007 | 07:51 AM
  #52  
93 ragtop's Avatar
93 ragtop
Le Mans Master
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 5,713
Likes: 105
From: Manassas VA
Default

Originally Posted by carlton_fritz
My blue eyes hate how bright it is in a convert. I do try to drive with the top out though. Lately I haven't due to all the pollen.

Yeah, my bald head hates the sunburn, but I still do it.
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2007 | 07:54 AM
  #53  
The Hobbit's Avatar
The Hobbit
Racer
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 339
Likes: 0
From: cambridge UK Cambs
Default

Originally Posted by mosquiton_001
So basically if I put in Drive the trans, leave the brakes and slowly start to accelerate the car will not move until it reaches the stall speed and only then start to take off all of a sudden?? (that would mean the car will be "useless" in the rev range under the stall speed )

Hi

I am in the UK and have had an 86 auto ragtop for about 4 years now. You will find that any vette will take off from the line pretty well but one thing I would advise is if you want a stick try a few before to buy it. I am going to get flamed for this, but I have driven sticks for 30 years and almost all US sticks shifts are very agricultural and heavy compared to something like an Alfa or lotus etc ( I understand that the new C6 is pretty good).
Its not there engineering particularly its just they have to transmit so much torque. For most occasions an auto is easier and seem to be more reliable to use in Europe.

Barry
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2007 | 07:55 AM
  #54  
carlton_fritz's Avatar
carlton_fritz
Team Owner
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,861
Likes: 94
St. Jude Donor '08-'09
Default

Originally Posted by 93 ragtop
Yeah, my bald head hates the sunburn, but I still do it.
I know the feeling. I do have a hat now. I hate hats....
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2007 | 10:14 AM
  #55  
kopbet89c4's Avatar
kopbet89c4
Safety Car
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 4,088
Likes: 0
From: Poop land
Default

I know my automatic serves me well. Kids in my area would say their 6-speed 200 hp Civics are faster than my Vette because they are manual. In the track, they do nothing but show off that dry hop and that uber cool 2.3 60' and run mid 15s @ about 90 mph.

Man, I've even beaten 6 speed LS1 F-bodies. My guess is that they do not know how drive. When they do, they could actually stand a chance against my automatic Vette.

I also noticed that the automatic Civic is much slower than the manual counterpart. There is about a 2 second difference in the 1/4th mile.

For some reason, it is the opposite with V8 powered cars.

My friend's 06 Mustang GT automatic is faster than his buddy's 06 manual counterpart. And they are both bone stock......
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2007 | 07:30 AM
  #56  
mosquiton_001's Avatar
mosquiton_001
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
From: Rome Italy
Default

Originally Posted by kopbet89c4
I know my automatic serves me well. Kids in my area would say their 6-speed 200 hp Civics are faster than my Vette because they are manual. In the track, they do nothing but show off that dry hop and that uber cool 2.3 60' and run mid 15s @ about 90 mph.

Man, I've even beaten 6 speed LS1 F-bodies. My guess is that they do not know how drive. When they do, they could actually stand a chance against my automatic Vette.

I also noticed that the automatic Civic is much slower than the manual counterpart. There is about a 2 second difference in the 1/4th mile.

For some reason, it is the opposite with V8 powered cars.

My friend's 06 Mustang GT automatic is faster than his buddy's 06 manual counterpart. And they are both bone stock......

Is yours auto transmission stock or you have modded something (like valve body converter etc)
your vette is a stock ls1?
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2007 | 09:03 AM
  #57  
kopbet89c4's Avatar
kopbet89c4
Safety Car
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 4,088
Likes: 0
From: Poop land
Default

Originally Posted by mosquiton_001
Is yours auto transmission stock or you have modded something (like valve body converter etc)
your vette is a stock ls1?
No, I only wish I had the LS1 in it. The transmission is stock.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Automatic VS Manual

Old Mar 30, 2007 | 07:54 PM
  #58  
RICEKILA's Avatar
RICEKILA
Safety Car
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,721
Likes: 1
From: Beautiful Down Town "SWINDLEHURST" Long Island NY
Default

Driving a auto vette is like kissing your sister in the dark. It feels good untill the lights go on, then you know it's just wrong
With that being typed, I have an auto, and love it--- but when I can buy a stick vette or install a 5spd. or a 4spd. I will in a New York min.
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2007 | 08:11 PM
  #59  
Rapid Fred's Avatar
Rapid Fred
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 11,835
Likes: 1,328
From: Middletown, DE
Default

Hey mosquiton_001 --

It is apparent from all the conflicting info you will need to buy one of each.

You will then have no regrets, ever, and when one breaks down you still have the other to cruise around in.

Seriously, I have a stick, and love it. I have driven only sticks for many years, and had never driven a Vette until a couple years ago, at least in part because I did not want an automatic and I had believed Vette manuals were brutal. But, it was easy to use; far less "agricultural" than I expected.

Everything I've read and heard suggests there is no noticeable performance difference because the V-8 torque matches so well with the automatic. So for your purposes I am sure the auto will do well. If you don't like it, I bet you can sell it and find a nice stick, even in Italy!

Have fun with your search and good luck!
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2007 | 08:15 PM
  #60  
carlton_fritz's Avatar
carlton_fritz
Team Owner
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,861
Likes: 94
St. Jude Donor '08-'09
Default

I would hate to drive a stick in Atlanta rushhour traffic. As a weekend get out of town cruiser, a stick would be fun. I still don't see how there is enough room for 3 pedals...
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:53 PM.

story-0
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-1
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every Model vs Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-20 17:58:41


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE
story-3
5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

Slideshow: 5 most and least popular Corvette model years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-08 13:25:01


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Corvette Buyer's Guide: Everything You Need to Know!

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette buyer's guide

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-17 16:41:08


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Things C8 Corvette Owners Hate (But Won't Tell You)

Slideshow: 10 things C8 Corvette owners hate, but won't tell you.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-01 18:36:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Best Corvettes Coming to Barrett-Jackson Palm Beach 2026!

Slideshow: Should you add one of these incredible Corvettes to your garage?

By Brett Foote | 2026-04-01 18:14:05


VIEW MORE
story-7
Every Corvette Grand Sport Explained! (C2, C4, C6, C7, & C8)

Slideshow: Every Corvette Grand Sport explained

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-26 07:13:44


VIEW MORE
story-8
Grand Sport & Grand Sport X Launch Alongside All-New 535hp LS6 V8!

Slideshow: Breaking down the 2027 Grand Sport, Grand Sport X, Stingray, and LS6 V8.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-03-26 13:48:45


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Reasons Bad Drivers Crash & 5 Ways to Avoid a Costly Mistake!

Slideshow: 5 reasons bad drivers crash sports cars & 5 ways to avoid a costly shame!

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-25 16:32:55


VIEW MORE