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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 11:48 PM
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I changed sparkplugs today and ran into a problem. #2 plug appears to be held by some type of cream colored putty. The hole is filled all around the body of the plug. I'm guessing the po stripped out the threads. The car is a 91 L98 and has 40,000 miles.

I left the #2 plug untouched. Assuming I run into a thread problem, does anyone have any experience with inserting a heli-coil?

Thnaks for the help. Gary R
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 12:46 AM
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No, I've never used a heli-coil in a spark plug hole, but I have in a block's head bolt hole.

Only time I had a spark plug hole thread problem I used a thread chaser to clean up the stock threads. Worked like a charm.

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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 01:01 AM
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Gary: The putty material you see may be anti-sieze compound. This is a lubricant that is commonly used when you insert steel threads into aluminum material. I am confused with the term "cream colored" material. Anti-sieze is usually silver in color and has the consistancy of tooth paste. Did you find this cream colored material on the other seven plugs?
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I have used a heli-coil insert before, it's not like a typical helicoil as it's a solid threaded insert. I was able to do the repair on the vehicle. It was not a vette, but it was an aluminum head.
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 09:32 AM
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Where do the metal shavings go
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 09:35 AM
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Sounds like someone fixed a stripped thread with epoxy . The cream colored stuff is it hard ? If so , it could be an epoxy glue = Shade tree fix .
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Where do the metal shavings go
What doesn't stick to the grease on tap is easily vacuumed from the cylinder.
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 01:28 PM
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Heli-coils are a gift from above.

I guess given the option I wouldn't want to use one on a spark plug hole, I'd try the suggestion of cleaning up the threads with a tap first.

But if you have to do so, I don't see why it wouldn't work.

I have one on my aluminum flywheel, it's held strong for two years of racing now...and the clutch / flywheel oviously see extreme temps and abuse.

The only thing I'd worry about is getting a perfect seal, you don't want to lose compression because a plug is cross threaded.
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http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/kdt3545.html

Here's a back tap it goes down into the sparkplug hole and rethreads the hole comming out so you aren't dumping metal shavings into the cylinder.
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Originally Posted by JD'S WHITE 93
Here's a back tap it goes down into the sparkplug hole and rethreads the hole comming out so you aren't dumping metal shavings into the cylinder.
Seems like a good idea, I especially like using the "inner" threads and working outward as they're probably intact.

But...how do you get it in there? Does it somehow expand once you stick it through?
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Originally Posted by ScaryFast
Seems like a good idea, I especially like using the "inner" threads and working outward as they're probably intact.

But...how do you get it in there? Does it somehow expand once you stick it through?
Yes it does expand, it has a nut on the top of it you turn.
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 06:53 PM
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Sam,

Thanks for the reply. The other plugs did not have the cream colored putty around them and they came out without any problem. The anti-seize compound I used was silver in color. I was afraid to disturb the putty around #2 until I talked to you guys and a mechanic I trust. I hope it is not an epoxy or something similar.

I talked to my mechanic today and he has done a number of heli-coil inserts. I think I'll take it to him so that it can be cleaned out and chase the threads or what ever is needed. He'll have all the tools on hand and has had experience with such problems. I probably better hold on to my shorts.

Gary R

Originally Posted by Sam Lam
Gary: The putty material you see may be anti-sieze compound. This is a lubricant that is commonly used when you insert steel threads into aluminum material. I am confused with the term "cream colored" material. Anti-sieze is usually silver in color and has the consistancy of tooth paste. Did you find this cream colored material on the other seven plugs?
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Sam,

Thanks for the reply. The other plugs did not have the cream colored putty around them and they came out without any problem. The anti-seize compound I used was silver in color. I was afraid to disturb the putty around #2 until I talked to you guys and a mechanic I trust. I hope it is not an epoxy or something similar.

I talked to my mechanic today and he has done a number of heli-coil inserts. I think I'll take it to him so that it can be cleaned out and chase the threads or what ever is needed. He'll have all the tools on hand and has had experience with such problems. I probably better hold on to my shorts.

Gary R
Worst case you pull the head which wouldn't be the biggest deal. Good luck and let us know how it turns out.
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