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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 08:10 PM
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I recently purchased an 86 vette with z51, 4+3 transmission, and aluminum cylinder heads. I am new to this forum. I put on a true dual exaust with targa mufflers and some other minor bolt ons. I was wondering if it is worth getting a super ram intake, mini ram intake, or other intake instead of the stock tpi intake.

Does anybody have a dyno run with a super ram or other intake on a mostly stock engine? I have read some stuff but would like to see a dyno chart for my self.

Also, my dad has a mustang chassis dyno at his shop in Cincinnati that i have ran my 86 vette on. If somebody had a car with a super ram intake, I would gladly let them use it for free to see the results.
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 08:19 PM
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Do a search. It will yeild lots of results. What sort of dyno numbers did you get with your bolt ons?
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A Superram on a Stock car isn't going to be cost effective.

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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 10:45 PM
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either add headers, cam and heads with that intake -- or don't do anything at all.
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 11:39 PM
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Anything you can do on the intake to allow it to breath will yeld results, TB & Runner Sies, Ram intake (mini/HSR), headers and exhaust all will improve performance...
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by vinnies87
Anything you can do on the intake to allow it to breath will yeld results, TB & Runner Sies, Ram intake (mini/HSR), headers and exhaust all will improve performance...
An intake minus heads that flow will yield low power increases.

Crapvette with his Mini on a stock long block pulled 268h, I pulled 276h with a stock longblock and a bigmouth.

Had I to do over again I WOULD NOT blow $1000 on a bigmouth and bigtubed intake to get the meager gains I did. You decide what hp increase is worth a grand. Is it 8, 10, 15 or 50?
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Vic'89
A Superram on a Stock car isn't going to be cost effective.

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I agree.
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 12:52 AM
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I have a super ram with stock heads and cam. It's not much faster than stock. I just came from the Sacramento Raceway. I turned a flat 14 sec. Last year at Corvette Magc I turned a 14.3 with just catbcks, So a Super ram with 1.6 RRs and downsized pullys gave me just 3 tenths. The track was not preped. That may have had something to do with it. You need a cam and good heads for power. The stock TPI plenum is not adequate but can be ported to add HP. I think TPIS ports them. You could use a ported plenum and install a set of runners.

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I think it would need a custom tune to really get anything worthwhile out of it, but even then I wouldnt expect better than high 13s with no other serious mods done.
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Originally Posted by Kool88vette
I have a super ram with stock heads and cam. It's not much faster than stock. I just came from the Sacramento Raceway. I turned a flat 14 sec. Last year at Corvette Magc I turned a 14.3 with just catbcks, So a Super ram with 1.6 RRs and downsized pullys gave me just 3 tenths. The track was not preped. That may have had something to do with it. You need a cam and good heads for power. The stock TPI plenum is not adequate but can be ported to add HP. I think TPIS ports them. You could use a ported plenum and install a set of runners.
Three tenths is a pretty decent gain in performance. You are correct, if he adds a 219 cam, headers and a SR manifold he will have a decent package and it should run very well depending on the condition of the engine. But the problem is finding a Super Ram, they have been out of production for months now, and will continue to be out until Mr Gasket finds a suitable vendor for them. I have one brand new unit in stock, but its part of a complete EFI system that I won't be separating the peices from.
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Originally Posted by hippy
Crapvette with his Mini on a stock long block pulled 268h, I pulled 276h with a stock longblock and a bigmouth.
thankfully he's banned forever

that kid posted alot of garbage that served to hurt this forum. he did zero to add to it. his lack of sense toward his corvette will be its demise in short order, if not already as i type this.
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Jeg's has the super ram setup in its spring catalog that I received recently. I also think 3 tenths is a decent gain, but the cost effectiveness would be subjective.
http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...46143_-1_11175
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Originally Posted by hippy
An intake minus heads that flow will yield low power increases.

Crapvette with his Mini on a stock long block pulled 268h, I pulled 276h with a stock longblock and a bigmouth.

Had I to do over again I WOULD NOT blow $1000 on a bigmouth and bigtubed intake to get the meager gains I did. You decide what hp increase is worth a grand. Is it 8, 10, 15 or 50?
hippy: if you read my post, i said ANY increase in flow will help performance.
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 01:58 PM
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Ebay aside, I wonder if it would be more cost effective on a stock motor than this:
http://www.tpis.com/index.php?module...ake+Components

4K for a mini ram? You may have to hit next page to see it....

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Originally Posted by tjwong
Three tenths is a pretty decent gain in performance. You are correct, if he adds a 219 cam, headers and a SR manifold he will have a decent package and it should run very well depending on the condition of the engine. But the problem is finding a Super Ram, they have been out of production for months now, and will continue to be out until Mr Gasket finds a suitable vendor for them. I have one brand new unit in stock, but its part of a complete EFI system that I won't be separating the peices from.
Thanks, TJ. I was a little dissapointed. I have 2.73 gears and street tires. That's probably holding it back too. The car is not finished yet anyways. I'll be racing again at Corvette Magic June 3. I want to meet John Markey and see all the work you have done to his car.
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Originally Posted by Kool88vette
Thanks, TJ. I was a little dissapointed. I have 2.73 gears and street tires. That's probably holding it back too. The car is not finished yet anyways. I'll be racing again at Corvette Magic June 3. I want to meet John Markey and see all the work you have done to his car.
A customer and friend of mine that frequents my shop and is also a forum member here runs 3.07 gears in his car with an A4. He runs 11.50s using a SR, 219 cam, and a 383 with AFR heads. He used to run mid 12s with a stock ZZ4 engine with the SR and 219 cam. A ZZ4 is basically a aluminum headed (L98 heads) 350 with a ZZ4 camshaft running 10:1 compression.
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Originally Posted by Hot Rod 90
either add headers, cam and heads with that intake -- or don't do anything at all.
I hear ya, i am with hotrod90 do headers, cam, heads with that intake, and if ur's is auto than i would suggest a loose TC will help acceleration tion too its an optional not a mandatory though.
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Originally Posted by tjwong
A customer and friend of mine that frequents my shop and is also a forum member here runs 3.07 gears in his car with an A4. He runs 11.50s using a SR, 219 cam, and a 383 with AFR heads. He used to run mid 12s with a stock ZZ4 engine with the SR and 219 cam. A ZZ4 is basically a aluminum headed (L98 heads) 350 with a ZZ4 camshaft running 10:1 compression.
I have the ZZ4 heads with Comp Pro Magnum RRs. The bottom was rebuilt and has about 15,000 on it. Maybe I need a ZZ4 Cam or a 219. I live in California and have to pass a smog. This 88 is my DD. That's why I still have stock cam and heads. I also can't do much about my exhaust. Don't want to change everthing everytime I need a smog.
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Originally Posted by vinnies87
Anything you can do on the intake to allow it to breath will yeld results, TB & Runner Sies, Ram intake (mini/HSR), headers and exhaust all will improve performance...
Originally Posted by hippy
An intake minus heads that flow will yield low power increases.

Had I to do over again I WOULD NOT blow $1000 on a bigmouth and bigtubed intake to get the meager gains I did. You decide what hp increase is worth a grand. Is it 8, 10, 15 or 50?
Originally Posted by vinnies87
hippy: if you read my post, i said ANY increase in flow will help performance.
I did read your post, did you notice I kinda answered yours by saying that any intake will yield low power increases with stock heads. Did you also read that I said I would not blow $1000 on a Bigmouth for the meager gains. When I say meager I meant that it did gain a little and I said the person pulling out the wallet would need to decide?
I thought meager gains was fairly self explanatory.
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