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From: San Pedro CA
Its amazing to me how a lot of you guys bash the "dumb hick mechanic" as you call them, everytime something doesn't go right with a repair. I myself quit an electrical engineering field to mechanic on large natural gas engines, and i'm sure i make more money than most guys on this forum.My point is mechanics aren't stupid dirty people, they just have the ***** to work on stuff you don't. And by the way you can accurately measure the crankcase pressure(blowby) and compare with gm specs, but i'll leave it too the smart people to figure out how. This isn't directed at anyone in perticular, but maybe some of you should trade up to a c6 with a good warranty
It is obvious to everyone else here that this mechanic isn't what he is advertised to be. In this case, it's called "FRAUD."
I cannot believe you can defend someone who obviously doesn't know his *** from a hole in the ground.
I will bash any "professional" who only makes matters worse. I don't care the industry. And trust me, there are a lot of "professionals" out there who should go back to school... be it law, medicine, IT or automotive mechanics.
If I screw up a project, well, that's on me. It's my time... but when I take something - ANYTHING - to someone who is supposed to know what they are doing and they **** it up and it inconveniences me, screw that. I will light them up every single time.
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From: San Pedro CA
I know I'm late on this but as a mechanic I highly recommend "the right stuff" to seal anything fluid related.....the stuff works great and contrary to what was said earlier in the thread it doesn't need to sit overnight....i've done plenty of intake gaskets, trans pan gaskets(only if manufacturer recommends silicone sealant etc..chrysler) differentials....and in the 4 years that I've been using it I haven't had a car comeback with a seal problem unless cause by mechanical failure....just thought I'd give my recommendation!!!
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I guess I'm a dumb Hick mechanic. Oh wait though I replaced a bearing on our press it was A SKF 23068/CCk/W33 it's a little bigger than anything you'll find on a car. On the side I do vibration analysis, oil analysis, align equipment, balance fans, weld anything but most of all
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From: San Diego , CA Double Yellow DirtBags 1985..Z51..6-speed
Its amazing to me how a lot of you guys bash the "dumb hick mechanic" as you call them, everytime something doesn't go right with a repair. I myself quit an electrical engineering field to mechanic on large natural gas engines, and i'm sure i make more money than most guys on this forum.My point is mechanics aren't stupid dirty people, they just have the ***** to work on stuff you don't...
Originally Posted by Bullyj
I guess I'm a dumb Hick mechanic. Oh wait though I replaced a bearing on our press it was A SKF 23068/CCk/W33 it's a little bigger than anything you'll find on a car. On the side I do vibration analysis, oil analysis, align equipment, balance fans, weld anything but most of all
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I'm not taking up for the mechanic in question here but it sounds like his shop was good about taking care of the problem with them picking up the tab for the rental car and all.
That being said, I got out of the business of working at the dealership (as a mechanic) because I'd replace a water pump on a random car and 6 months later the trans would go out and it was automaticly my fault. Or I would replace intake gaskets on a 3.4liter and then a window regulater would go out on the car a month later and through magic, my working on the intake must have caused the window regulater to go bad. I could go on...
That being said, I got out of the business of working at the dealership (as a mechanic) because I'd replace a water pump on a random car and 6 months later the trans would go out and it was automaticly my fault. Or I would replace intake gaskets on a 3.4liter and then a window regulater would go out on the car a month later and through magic, my working on the intake must have caused the window regulater to go bad. I could go on...
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From: CLT, North Carolina
That along with the factory time allowance to replace an Opti is probably something like 1.8 and you have to hope you don't have any leaks anywhere after slamming it back together. If you took your time to do a careful job like you would do on your own car at home you would starve.
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From: San Diego , CA Double Yellow DirtBags 1985..Z51..6-speed
A good reason to never write the dealership a blank check.
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Just pulled out the official GM 94-96 Y Platform Labor Time Guide:
Distributor Replacement- 2.3 (Opti)
Intake Manifold Gaskets- 1.9
Timing Gear Replacement- 5.1
This looks more like a technician (mechanic) and an owner problem rather than a dealership problem to me. Thanks to "generous" GM labor time allowance a huge incentive for mechanic to shortcut the job exists if he is ever going to make any money. Dealerships keep finding creative ways to screw the mechanics. How would you like to get 5.1 hours to pull the timing cover off and put everything back on and you have to guarantee your work? This means left side cat and oil pan folks. Exhaust too to get the cat off. Dealership calls it a comeback if you screw it up and you work the second time for free. Personally I would not want my Corvette worked on by anyone on that program.
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From: San Pedro CA
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From: Fountain CO
I'm not taking up for the mechanic in question here but it sounds like his shop was good about taking care of the problem with them picking up the tab for the rental car and all.
That being said, I got out of the business of working at the dealership (as a mechanic) because I'd replace a water pump on a random car and 6 months later the trans would go out and it was automaticly my fault. Or I would replace intake gaskets on a 3.4liter and then a window regulater would go out on the car a month later and through magic, my working on the intake must have caused the window regulater to go bad. I could go on...
That being said, I got out of the business of working at the dealership (as a mechanic) because I'd replace a water pump on a random car and 6 months later the trans would go out and it was automaticly my fault. Or I would replace intake gaskets on a 3.4liter and then a window regulater would go out on the car a month later and through magic, my working on the intake must have caused the window regulater to go bad. I could go on...
I don't turn wrenches for a living now.
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From: San Diego , CA Double Yellow DirtBags 1985..Z51..6-speed
Just pulled out the official GM 94-96 Y Platform Labor Time Guide:
Distributor Replacement- 2.3 (Opti)
Intake Manifold Gaskets- 1.9
Timing Gear Replacement- 5.1
This looks more like a technician (mechanic) and an owner problem rather than a dealership problem to me. Thanks to "generous" GM labor time allowance a huge incentive for mechanic to shortcut the job exists if he is ever going to make any money. Dealerships keep finding creative ways to screw the mechanics. How would you like to get 5.1 hours to pull the timing cover off and put everything back on and you have to guarantee your work? This means left side cat and oil pan folks. Exhaust too to get the cat off. Dealership calls it a comeback if you screw it up and you work the second time for free. Personally I would not want my Corvette worked on by anyone on that program.
Distributor Replacement- 2.3 (Opti)
Intake Manifold Gaskets- 1.9
Timing Gear Replacement- 5.1
This looks more like a technician (mechanic) and an owner problem rather than a dealership problem to me. Thanks to "generous" GM labor time allowance a huge incentive for mechanic to shortcut the job exists if he is ever going to make any money. Dealerships keep finding creative ways to screw the mechanics. How would you like to get 5.1 hours to pull the timing cover off and put everything back on and you have to guarantee your work? This means left side cat and oil pan folks. Exhaust too to get the cat off. Dealership calls it a comeback if you screw it up and you work the second time for free. Personally I would not want my Corvette worked on by anyone on that program.
Not the customer's problem, he pays 1.8 hrs labor charge for it. The mechanic and dealership can sort out their losses.
SafeLite auto glass spent $1000 and 21 man hours doing a $200 windshield replacement on my car because they're incompetent. Again, their problem, not mine. I even told them they should charge more for C4's or turn them down or they'll lose money on them every time. They said upper management makes those decisions.
I deal with mechanics/techs as little as possible.
My short list used to be tires, smog, gears, windshields.
They can't do tires without effing up the car, so I bring the wheels in loose. Took diff in to get gears done, they stole the gears. Windshield was a huge mess.
So now the only thing I'll pay someone else for is mounting tires and smog. You can't trust a shop with anything.
Not saying all mechanics are incompetent, it's not all under their control. No way in hell I'd be one for a living.