I thought he was also running DR's on those times except for the 13.37? I may be wrong but even that is impressive. Mr. Mojo?

I think high 13's is average weather conditions and driving. Mid 13's is very good conditions and driving. And low 13's is excelent conditions and driving. 12's in a completely stock C4 would be almost impossible. IMO

What I don't get is the extremely high mph on the top end of some of the "stock" times earlier in this thread. I consider stock to be factory weight, exhaust, tune, paper air filter, pump gas, street tires, etc.. Opinions on this vary.

 

I ran 109.29 once.

Remember that weather conditions play a huge factor as well as the temp of the car


my stock 93 with 2.59 went 13.37

I ran 12.99 and 12.97, they were under very ideal conditions. We're talking -3000 DA, but my six speed car always ran in the 13.10-13.20 range on any given day.
It was totally stock.

Oh yes thye will and I have eye witnesses, ask 65 Z01 he ran against me when I went 12.99.

Didn't know I was a tard.

where is your farm? I lost my farm 9 years ago due to a divorce, I could use another one.
My 93 with the stock LT1 but other mods has gone 12.50@108



Nope, street tires. They were Michelin Pilot XGT Z4's in stock sizes on stock rims.

 

You probably lost the farm because you bet the wife that your bone stock LT1 could run 13 flat high 12's. I guess she won

You wouldn't want my farm, it isn't located in neverland.

 

this is getting stupid. Do you guys realize that you are arguing about a couple of tenths of a second?

Have you even considered how many different variables are involved in any given quarter mile drag race? Temp, humidity, elevation, bar pressure, wind speed, wind direction, track prep, timing system, etc... these are just some of the enviroment variables, not even including the condition of the car!

ANYBODY remember back in 1998 when GMHightech performance tested the first year ls1 camaro/firebird and claimed 12's off of the show room floor? It was 305hp and 335ft/lb

A light weight, areodynamic car with 300hp and 330ft/lb is very capable of running 13 flat or even 12.9 given excellent conditions/good driver/good traction. 300 horse power isn't a big number comparing it to today's easily achievable numbers but it is still a very signifigant amount of power!

For those of you who question mph claims, you have to realize that in any given run, any wheelspin will contribute to a higher trap speed. My modded 88 would always run 2mph faster and about .5 second slower with a little wheelspin on street tread as compared to slicks.

The bottom line here is that this is not the "pissing contest forum" nobody here has any reason to lie or exaggerate. Those of you who are calling BS on people's claims simply because YOU have never seen it need to realize that there are many things that go on in the world today that are totally possible even without your presence.

 

Well first off, don't ever talk that way to me or anyone who was in my family.

Those who know me, know I don't lie cheat or steal.

I have eyewitnesses for my runs and many many timeslips backing up my low 13's.

Better shape up before I ship you out.

 

I find it amusing that crossfire claims to know more about drag racing LT1s than those who actually own and race one.


No it won't.

 

 

How is it there's always an EXPERT who doesn't own or race what he's an expert on. I bought my 93 new and it went 13.20's off the showroom floor. A six speed is capable of busting into the 12's with an excellent launch and GREAT weather. .

 

for the love of god, people...look at the f'n DA and some of these tracks, you'll notice at pattern of great times

 

I guess I better not say what my new best mph is with valve springs, 1.6 rr's, and ewp, with 30+* warmer air temp and a crappy barometer.

 

People who do not drag race do not understand the amount of variables that go into one run. Track-to much traction can slow you down. If your track uses vht, all 4 tires can stick like glue creating more rolling resistance-to little traction will slow you down, car, driver, weather- air temp, barometer, da, wind-tailwind, headwind etc...etc...

 

I like to use VHT on my fingers when flipping pages through my Motor Trend magazine looking for 1/4mi ET's.

 

That's where most EXPERTS get their 1/4 mile times from

 

Actually I have owned the Lt1 based ‘vettes and raced them, Not only in a straight line (whoop-de-doo) but also auto-x. What makes you think you know where I’ve been or what I have seen.

I get a kick out of you guys that think drag racing a 12-13 + second car takes any kind of ability.


Yes wheel spin can off the line can give you higher trap speed. Been there done that.

 

LT1 based vettes ?? Interesting wording there, and as far as Auto X running a 12-13 + second car as you call it through cones in a parking lot qualifies you for what exactly ? Getting a STOCK LT1 into the low 13's high 12's obviously takes more ability then what you have.
There are a few guys on here who have done it and have proof but you were betting the farm it couldn't be done. It couldn't be done by you is all.

 

Lt1 based perhaps wasn’t the best way to phrase it, but you get my drift.

Maybe your idea of auto-x is driving around cones in a parking lot in front of the local bong shop, but my version is on actual race tracks. Lining up against you would only be a light snack. Broaden your horizons son.

How much ability does it take to stomp your foot to the floor and hold it for 1320 feet? (in a 12-13 second car). Try getting on a motocross bike and race it competitively. That takes ability. Broaden your horizons son.

Please show me all of these high 12 second factory stock 1990’s lt1 based Corvettes. Not one person has shown me anything.

On a side note I’ll bet the farm that I can turn faster passes in your 14 second 383 vs. what you can eek out of it.

 

Never said it takes ability, just backing up the fact that it can be done.

I will agree with you on trap speed, I have got higher mph with a spin off the line.

 

OK, this isn't one of my 12 second runs, but it shows a low 13 on a very hot day.

You can also ask Scorp what I ran against him when we raced.

http://www.corvetteforum.net/c4/mrmo...percharger.wmv

 

Maybe he means a base vette w/LT1
Crossfire7:
Although I have no interest/desire to race in a straight line...I prefer centfrical g's. I know Mojo and have seen him race. He is not a liar!! I have noticed there are alot of consistant cars and drivers that run at Englishtown. Be happy for them, they accomplished from what you deemed the impossible . You need to
You autocross hey that's great how do rate there?? Try a HPDE...that's where the real rush is!!
Yes, I'm liar too!! This is not my BIII/BP car


Hey Mojo,
My money is on Mojo!!
When you get the farm can I bring my other horsepower down??
I'll let ya take it for a ride if you like

Laurie

 

For those women who don’t understand, C4’s came with 3 different motors over the duration of th C4 generation. The LT1 was one of them, so the LT1 based model is what is exactly what the words mean. I only want to see the flood of factory stock high 12 second Lt1 C4’s that apparently exist. I have never seen any and then some dunce comes on here and start tossing the liar word around. I never used that word. I asked to be shown. Be happy for them? Who are them? Show me them.

Mojo, thanks for the video link. I know that you are able to squeeze them a bit more than most. Nice job.