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Old May 10, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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So I get into work today, and wasn't paying much attention to the gauges, but when I turn off my car I hear a bubbling sound. Uh oh.

I open up my hood and I can hear the coolant bubbling up top. Down at the resovoir there is coolant all over the engine bay plastic and the container. There is also coolant surrounding the inside of my rim and tire.

So much coolant got out it was dripping from the brush guard in front of my car, but I couldn't see from where! Temps were about 230 degrees. The resovoir was filled about to the brim with coolant.

It was operational last night!!

Is this maybe a waterpump issue?? I couldn't find any hoses leaking, and I think most of the leaked coolant came from out of the cap of the resovoir.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 12:12 PM
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Could be alot of things. BTW, always best to post year, by your profile it's a 95? Not sure if the 95 had an opti, if it does I'd be worried about that too. Start checking hoses, debris in front of the radiator and or radiator and condensor, check your oil to be on the safe side! You need to isolate, or eliminate things like hoses, radiator cap ect. At least it didn't get to hot.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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So I get into work today, and wasn't paying much attention to the gauges, but when I turn off my car I hear a bubbling sound. Uh oh.

I open up my hood and I can hear the coolant bubbling up top. Down at the resovoir there is coolant all over the engine bay plastic and the container. There is also coolant surrounding the inside of my rim and tire.

So much coolant got out it was dripping from the brush guard in front of my car, but I couldn't see from where! Temps were about 230 degrees. The resovoir was filled about to the brim with coolant.

It was operational last night!!

Is this maybe a waterpump issue?? I couldn't find any hoses leaking, and I think most of the leaked coolant came from out of the cap of the resovoir.
Weird...230° shouldn't have made you overheat like that. If your radiator cap wasnt tightened or fails to seal, it can lower your systems boiling point which could have been a cause of your problem. Wouldn't hurt to replace it anyway if it is more than about a year old. Why not start with a full system flush and a new radiator cap and go from there?
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Old May 10, 2007 | 12:55 PM
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sorry, yes it's a 95.

230 was conservative. it was probably closer to 240-245 degrees

If I drive it a bit at higher speeds the temp stays ok, but a little high. If I do ANY stop and go or slower speed my temps jump fast into the red (so to speak) zone and start climbing to 220-230


I went through the hoses, as best I could see they were all intact.

Isn't it odd that the resovoir was filled all the way to the brim? Is it overheating that would cause it to rise that high and possibly through the cap?
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Old May 10, 2007 | 01:03 PM
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Are your fans working? If your coolant begins to boil it will expand and overflow out the cap and into the reservoir, but a properly sealed system with the correct mixture of coolant and water should not boil at 230.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 01:05 PM
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My guess is the coolant has got issues then.

I had a "checkup" on my car a little while back where they told me the pH of my coolant was low and needed a flush/refill .

I didn't believe them at the time because I had JUST had it done about 3 months prior maybe I should look into that.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 01:21 PM
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IF THE radiator cap wasnt sealed good, it wont pick up vacume to pull outta the resivior (cant spell worth a lick)
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Old May 10, 2007 | 02:16 PM
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If the temp gauge is anywhere near right, I can only think of two things. The first, is the already mentioned, depressurizing of the cooling system, which will bring the boiling point of the coolant down to the temp of the coolant. And the other is a blown head gasket. Cylinder pressure in the cooling system will force water out through the radiator cap and overflow the reservoir. If this were MY car, I would start with a very thorough flush of the cooling system. I would pull the radiator and clean out from in between the radiator and condenser, plus clean the fins of both heat exchangers. I would then fill the cooling system with water, (no need to waste money on coolant for a test) and check the operation of the fans, radiator cap, and thermostat. I would let it get warm and make sure everything is working. Also, make the usual checks for a blown head gasket. One way or another, somehow, the pressurization of your cooling system has been compromised.

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Thank goodness you've got the improved, vented Opti or your day could have gotten even shettier.
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There are several possibilities. Your thermostat could be sticking closed, water pump bad, radiator clogged ( both internally and externally), bad radiator cap.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BerniesVette
There are several possibilities. Your thermostat could be sticking closed, water pump bad, radiator clogged ( both internally and externally), bad radiator cap.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 06:55 PM
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I'm having the same exact problem with my 96 LT1. I will start my own thread so as to not highjack yours.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 09:32 PM
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It sure sounds like nothing more than a failed radiator cap and some air in the cooling system. Your 95 requires a 17psi cap to keep the coolant from boiling. If the cap does not hold the pressure it releases coolant to the overflow reservoir and since it is not longer under pressure it quickly boils off. Next, since you have lost coolant and the ability to keep the system under the proper pressure you get air in and overheating. Replace the cap, refill the system, purge the air using the bleeder screw on the t-stat housing and hopeflully you are good to go.

NOTE--failure to use the bleeder screw WILL leave air in the system and it will quickly overheat again.
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Old May 11, 2007 | 07:39 AM
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Lots of good info and starting places so far. I would clean it all up, fill it up with water and get a pressure tester, pressure the system, and check for leaks at first. If no pressure tester is available, just run it up and watch the temp for 20 min or so and see what happens. If its OK, change cap if desired, drive for a day then fill with coolant.

If the car was good up to that day, the thermostat could have gone bad and is just partially opening. If you run the car and overheats, put a stat in it and run it again. I am assuming all fans are operating normal.

If that does not do it then you can get into the radiator maintenance and cleaning as described above.
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Took it to a shop and they were lookin into things.. looks like a cylinder or head gasket problem I don't know what it is yet.

How much is an average head gasket repair?
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Originally Posted by bluedevil99
Took it to a shop and they were lookin into things.. looks like a cylinder or head gasket problem I don't know what it is yet.

How much is an average head gasket repair?
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Old May 11, 2007 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by bluedevil99
Took it to a shop and they were lookin into things.. looks like a cylinder or head gasket problem I don't know what it is yet.

How much is an average head gasket repair?
Do NOT let them touch it until you do some more diagnostics. Head gasket jobs can go $500 to $1800 depending upon how much money they think you have, multiplied by how niave you actually are.

Now if you had said you had white smoke out the exhaust, milky looking oil, seepage at the head, or one of several other indicators it would be different. Right now it sounds more like the shop janitor is doing the diagnosis with his crystal ball and your money.
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Do NOT let them touch it until you do some more diagnostics.

Now if you had said you had white smoke out the exhaust, milky looking oil, seepage at the head, or one of several other indicators it would be different. Right now it sounds more like the shop janitor is doing the diagnosis with his crystal ball and your money.
Ya think??? See post #8
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If the temp gauge is anywhere near right, I can only think of two things. The first, is the already mentioned, depressurizing of the cooling system, which will bring the boiling point of the coolant down to the temp of the coolant. And the other is a blown head gasket. Cylinder pressure in the cooling system will force water out through the radiator cap and overflow the reservoir.
I don't discourage further checking, but we know it isn't the thermostat, it wasn't over heating.

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Ya think??? See post #8I don't discourage further checking, but we know it isn't the thermostat, it wasn't over heating.

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Absolutely!! What I am saying is that further diagnostics should be done before tearing into it for the big $$ repair. I am not one to knock repair shops, heck I manage one, but the gut check response of telling him a head gasket reeks of greedy repair shop. What I am saying is pull it out of their shop and do the simple diagnostics as once they start pulling the head he and his money are committed.

I am still thinking a simple $10 radiator cap, but maybe that would be too easy and too cheap?
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Originally Posted by aminnich
Absolutely!! What I am saying is that further diagnostics should be done before tearing into it for the big $$ repair. I am not one to knock repair shops, heck I manage one, but the gut check response of telling him a head gasket reeks of greedy repair shop. What I am saying is pull it out of their shop and do the simple diagnostics as once they start pulling the head he and his money are committed.

I am still thinking a simple $10 radiator cap, but maybe that would be too easy and too cheap?
Like you quoted me above, "I don't discourage further checking, but we know it isn't the thermostat, it wasn't over heating.". It would appear you are condemning the efforts of the shop, with no clue as to how they came to their diagnosis. The $10.00 radiator cap COULD be the cause. And if that is all that is wrong, the responsible people ought to be hanged until death. However, with no more information than we've been given, I think it's a little early to round up a lynch mob.

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