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Old May 11, 2007 | 09:56 PM
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Hi ! New here
How are everyone ?
Im currently lookin for a C4
Ive been told that AT vettes are so much different than the MT
On MT you can really feel the power and the AT are not so funny to drive around,the problem is almost all the C4's i have found are
automatics !!!
Please tell me more,you will help a lot in my choice
thanx !
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Old May 11, 2007 | 10:59 PM
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I personally like standard transmissions for the way I drive. I like doing something when I drive. The thought of just sticking my foot on the accelerator makes me think of a Cadillac . I've seen a lot of vettes that get great times at the track ( Bandimere speedway ) with automatics. Choose what you like.

The std cars have a beefier rear end (D44) and better gearing.

I would look for what you want the most. Don't settle because there are a lot of C4's out there.

Good luck and have fun .
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Old May 11, 2007 | 11:00 PM
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Calderone? I thought Crockett put you away...

The autos are different, but they are a case of "you have to drive it." Test drive some of both and make your decision based on that.

If you want a stick, stray away from the 4+3 Manual box used from 1984 to 1988, get the ZF6 6-Speed used from 1989 - 1996. On the 4+3, the OD unit can have issues. Autos, not so much an issue of the year, just get a maintained car.
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Old May 12, 2007 | 08:27 AM
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nothing shifts faster than a machine. Now granted you have to build the machine right.. But if you look at all the top street car guys, they are leaving off of trans brakes and automatics... The torque converter absorbs alot of the driveline stress manual cars see.. again, you have to have the right converter (see sig).

Although I enjoy rowing my own gears.. having to drive in stop and go rush hour traffic with a clutch sucks! Evaluate what you will be using it for the most and go from there!
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Old May 12, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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Hi guys ! thanx for your reply
Im just new to the Vette world
and i ve been drivin a 1982 Firebird S/E since 1996
i think a Corvette is the next step from Thirdgens (which i love)
but i need a real performance street car (not modified) and i think that's the Vette,my bird is automatic and the automatic trannys
steal away the action i think,shifting up and down on a manual transmission is fun ! There are more AT c4's than std transmission ones ??? Im from Chile so,here there are not much Vettes or Thirdgens ...here is a lot of New japanese cars
thanx !
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Old May 12, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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Calderone? I thought Crockett put you away...

Well,im back !

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Old May 12, 2007 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 80sRule
Calderone? I thought Crockett put you away...


Originally Posted by 80sRule
get the ZF6 6-Speed used from 1989 - 1996.
further, the 6 speed had 2 versions:
89-93 "black tag" higher torque rating
93-96 "blue tag"


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Old May 14, 2007 | 10:16 AM
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The A4 also has about 8% greater horsepower deficit to the rear wheels than the M6.

If you do go with the A4, the automatics outnumber the manuals about 5 to 1, make sure you get the performance axle. The gear ratio on the G92 is 3.07, as opposed to 2.59 on the base gear.
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Just drive them both and then decide which you would perfer.
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Old May 14, 2007 | 07:51 PM
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I think the 700R4 and 4+3 are about equal in terms of hp loss, and the ZF6 is better than both.

Drive all 3.

The auto vette is boooooring to drive. The manuals also have the stronger Dana 44 rear. This was an option on autos.
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Originally Posted by CentralCoaster
I think the 700R4 and 4+3 are about equal in terms of hp loss, and the ZF6 is better than both.

Drive all 3.

The auto vette is boooooring to drive. The manuals also have the stronger Dana 44 rear. This was an option on autos.
True......however in the hands of most drivers the auto with the performance axle is probably FASTER than the manual.....the auto never misses a shift either...

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Old May 16, 2007 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by CentralCoaster
Drive all 3.

The auto vette is boooooring to drive. The manuals also have the stronger Dana 44 rear. This was an option on autos.


Not true at all. My automatic is not boring to drive. And the dana 44 was never offered as a option on a automatic vette.
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hi
How can i know its the performance axle ? ? ??
thanx
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by sbethel
The gear ratio on the G92 is 3.07, as opposed to 2.59 on the base gear.
Sometimes! On occasion! G92 simply designates the "Performance Ratio". The "performance ratio" for any given car, coupe, convertible, manual or automatic, and year, varies, as does the standard ratio. In some applications the performance ratio CAN be 3.07. In MY car, 3.07 was the standard ratio, and 3.31 was the performance ratio. The G92 option does NOT designate any particular ratio, only that the "Performance Ratio", whatever that may be for that car, is installed. There will always be a "G" RPO number that actually designates the specific ratio for that car, standard or performance, in addition to the G92 if so equipped.

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I drive a 1993 A4 (with the 700R4) and a 3.07 rear axle and dont find it boring at all. It all depends on the traffic situation that you use the car in, in my opinion.
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 10:07 AM
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I have had the 3:07 in both the L98 and LT1's, it makes a BIG difference over the stock gears. What makes the six speeds seem so much faster is the rear end ratio's, usually 3:4x. Drive a 4+3 with 3:07's (most of them came with them) and an at with 3:07's, and you won't notice that much difference. Unless you drive all out, I believe the at actually feels faster. JMO
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 10:19 AM
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The AT always felt faster to me leaving a stop light (probably was) , Stab it and go. 6 spds can be a bit more fun....Unless you are in traffic a lot. They both have pros and cons go drive both and see what works for you. Dont worry about what everyone else says, youre the one that has to live with it.
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