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Old May 15, 2007 | 01:00 PM
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Hi guys, I am doing a 421 miniram motor for a guy in Europe, and need a part number for a Stant thermostat. Some thermostats won't open all the way, and there is one specific that works perfect, but I can't remember the number. TPIS has a part number for a 170 degree AC Delco thermostat. But I am looking for a 160 Stant.
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Originally Posted by tpi 421 vette
Hi guys, I am doing a 421 miniram motor for a guy in Europe, and need a part number for a Stant thermostat. Some thermostats won't open all the way, and there is one specific that works perfect, but I can't remember the number. TPIS has a part number for a 170 degree AC Delco thermostat. But I am looking for a 160 Stant.
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Won't open all the way??

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Old May 15, 2007 | 09:48 PM
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Won't open all the way??

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Yeah, I have had the same issue since I installed the Miniram.
Right now I am running without a thermostat.

I tried 3 different ones and they all will bottom out and not open.

Vic
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Old May 15, 2007 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Vic'89
Yeah, I have had the same issue since I installed the Miniram.
Right now I am running without a thermostat.

I tried 3 different ones and they all will bottom out and not open.

Vic
Hrmm.. That could explain a few things!

I'm curious to find out what thermostats do work with the miniram..

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Old May 15, 2007 | 11:03 PM
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I guess I could pull the thermostat out of mine and see the part number... but I'm hoping I don't have to do that.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 11:10 PM
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Ok, enough is enough - I found a felpro gasket - I believe it is a 2202 - it is 1/8th thick and it isnt cheap - put the gasket on the manifold and set the tstat on top of the gasket - use no sealant.

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...w=32&N=700+115


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Old May 16, 2007 | 12:53 AM
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The stat on the MiniRam in my 415 CID 86 did the same thing, bottomed out and stuck in the open position. Fortunately I'd used a stat that fails in the open position.

The best thing would be to contact TPIS and get the stat or the correct part number. I never did for mine because my 86 was wrecked by an 18 wheeler a few days after I installed the MiniRam.

Be sure to post the part number so we can all benefit.

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I already contacted TPIS, and they only have a AC Delco part number for a 170 degree thermostat. I am looking for a Stant 160. I have one in my car, but was hoping I wouldn't have to take it out to get a part number.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by tpi 421 vette
I am looking for a Stant 160. I have one in my car, but was hoping I wouldn't have to take it out to get a part number.
Stant superstat hd. pn. 45356 (160*)are the ones I have been using and work well. I have an MR II no bottoming out etc.
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is the thermostat bottoming out, and not opening far enough, been a common cause for overheating with the Minirams?
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Originally Posted by BigLee
is the thermostat bottoming out, and not opening far enough, been a common cause for overheating with the Minirams?
Apparently some have, I beleive it may because of the earlier version (MR I from pics. I have seen). When I first put mine together I did some measuring and it is real close, however the stat works properly on mine.

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Originally Posted by mseven
Stant superstat hd. pn. 45356 (160*)are the ones I have been using and work well. I have an MR II no bottoming out etc.
That's what I have been looking for... Thanks!
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Originally Posted by tpi 421 vette
That's what I have been looking for... Thanks!
I spoke to Chris at TPIS today and found out two things.

1) The "older" manifolds will have a ridge machined into them for the thermostat. These take the 'shallow' thermostat, that he said was no longer available. He said drill some holes in the thermostat.. The newer manifolds run the thermostat in the water neck.

2) I have a fbody water neck. wtf.

http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/al...oming-out.html

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Originally Posted by anesthes
1) The "older" manifolds will have a ridge machined into them for the thermostat. These take the 'shallow' thermostat,..... Joe
that confirms my original observation, but I think there is just less room on the earlier MR, measuring from the top edge of the intake to inside bottom. I say this because when I first set it up I had done some measuring (MR II). Having the pellet extended, w/no gasket, it was close (had approx. 1/8" room to spare, if memory serves).
The funny thing is I initially set it up with the stat in the neck (where the maching is done, and as intended) and it leaked even with sealant smeared on both sides of the gasket. I then put the stat. straight on the intake w/gasket above and has been that way since and works well.
The only other answer I could think of is, all of these castings should be checked, and no 2 are alike ...
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That's what I have been looking for... Thanks!
You're welcome, if the one you are bulding for that party is anything like yours it should be a screamer !
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Originally Posted by _twisted_
Ok, enough is enough - I found a felpro gasket - I believe it is a 2202 - it is 1/8th thick and it isnt cheap - put the gasket on the manifold and set the tstat on top of the gasket - use no sealant.

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...w=32&N=700+115

Thanks for the link JD. I am going to buy one just to cover my butt.
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Originally Posted by tpi 421 vette
Hi guys, I am doing a 421 miniram motor for a guy in Europe, and need a part number for a Stant thermostat. Some thermostats won't open all the way, and there is one specific that works perfect, but I can't remember the number. TPIS has a part number for a 170 degree AC Delco thermostat. But I am looking for a 160 Stant.
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Was this the pricey 421 or the budget 421?
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This was a high end 421, Dart block, Callies, Crower, JE,AFR ect. The guy lives in Norway. It's going in a 91 Vette, but he hasn't installed it yet.
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