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Old Jun 1, 2007 | 11:56 PM
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Whats the chance these will go out. How much do you think it would cost to have each of these done. Saw another thread on the tie rods but didnt want to jack his thread. Thanks.
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 12:56 AM
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Well NC KId if you talking just the the axle U-joints I got a quote around 400 for just them at 3 hours a side.

And I did it myself with wife helping me she loves to work on cars

And its not a bad job to do if you know how to turn a wrench.
I went with a recommendation from another forum member to get Neapco U-joints where spicers are hard to get now or days with the coating made for aluminum axles.

If you do a search you will find part # not sure off the top of my head what it is.

Now drive shaft U-Joints I didnt do yet so I cant tell you what it would cost but like I said If you can turn a wrench it not to bad, you just have to drop exhaust to get to drive shaft.

Now Tie rods I havent had to do mine yet but its not a hard job .
Just keep track of how many turns you took the old one off and you can get it close to the alignment specs you had when you started.

But I would have the alignment checked

But if I was going to guess how much it would cost to have all of it done by mechanic Id say 1000 - 1500 easy.

Now see im not so bad, am I???
Now wheres my sorry
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Repzard
Well NC KId if you talking just the the axle U-joints I got a quote around 400 for just them at 3 hours a side.

And I did it myself with wife helping me she loves to work on cars

And its not a bad job to do if you know how to turn a wrench.
I went with a recommendation from another forum member to get Neapco U-joints where spicers are hard to get now or days with the coating made for aluminum axles.

If you do a search you will find part # not sure off the top of my head what it is.

Now drive shaft U-Joints I didnt do yet so I cant tell you what it would cost but like I said If you can turn a wrench it not to bad, you just have to drop exhaust to get to drive shaft.

Now Tie rods I havent had to do mine yet but its not a hard job .
Just keep track of how many turns you took the old one off and you can get it close to the alignment specs you had when you started.

But I would have the alignment checked

But if I was going to guess how much it would cost to have all of it done by mechanic Id say 1000 - 1500 easy.

Now see im not so bad, am I???
Now wheres my sorry
Im sorry repzard.
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 08:34 AM
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I just got 4 Neapco u joints for the half shafts of my 94 Z (part # 0799) for $74 delivered. I was told that spicer is now made in Mexico??? and that's assuming you can find them.

Replacing them isn't a bad job at all. The tie rods? ...just pop them loose off the knuckle, loosen the jam nut, mark their location on the shaft and spin them off. I'll be darned if I'd pay the $85/hr for some one else do what I can do. So get a Helms and dig in.

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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 08:53 AM
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I just got 4 Neapco u joints for the half shafts of my 94 Z (part # 0799) for $74 delivered. I was told that spicer is now made in Mexico??? and that's assuming you can find them.

Replacing them isn't a bad job at all. The tie rods? ...just pop them loose off the knuckle, loosen the jam nut, mark their location on the shaft and spin them off. I'll be darned if I'd pay the $85/hr for some one else do what I can do. So get a Helms and dig in.
I am not buying nothing that makes my car run from mexico. Got a radiator hose from autozone before and it split 3 weeks later.
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 12:20 PM
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Tie rod ends are a piece of cake, get Moogs from Rock Auto. The u-joints aren't that bad, I helped VetteUSA do one side on his LT1 and it took us a couple of hours. He said the Vette specialty place quoted him $400/side for u-joints.
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ittlfly
I just got 4 Neapco u joints for the half shafts of my 94 Z (part # 0799) for $74 delivered.
That part number is a spin-off of the Spicer part number that isn't coated for aluminum shafts. Either way, they will fit and work, but are those Neapco joints coated for use in aluminum shafts?

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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by N.C. Kid
Whats the chance these will go out. How much do you think it would cost to have each of these done. Saw another thread on the tie rods but didnt want to jack his thread. Thanks.
Funny question. In time, chances are 100% all of it wear out. It's a 20 year old car already. As others have stated, all those things are nuts and bolts type repairs. You could have some outside costs to have a shop press in some bushings or for wheel alignment, but that's about it besides the parts. Get a catalog from mid america, corvette central, whatever. Several different options for all those common wear parts are in there.
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by CFI-EFI
That part number is a spin-off of the Spicer part number that isn't coated for aluminum shafts. Either way, they will fit and work, but are those Neapco joints coated for use in aluminum shafts?

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Hi CFI-EFI

Yes the ones I bought from Neapco are coated.
Heres a Picture so you can see the coating on the Caps.




Not sure of the part # off the top of my head but it is on Neapco website in a PDF.

If I can dig up the part# number I will be glad to post it for you NC KID if you go this rout

Ps I just looked at my reciept and the Part# is 2-0799
I got them at Fleet Pride at $16.34 a piece - 4 of them cost $75.31 with tax
The "part #0799" are not coated for aluminum.

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Originally Posted by Repzard
Hi CFI_EFI

Yes the ones I bought from Neapco are coated.
Heres a Picture so you can see the coating on the Caps.



Not sure of the part # off the top of my head but it is on Neapco website in a PDF.

If I can dig up the part# number I will be glad to post it for you NC KID if you go this rout
Well I am getting graduation money from alot of family soon and it is SOOO freaking hard not to spend it on something really nice. but I am going to a "late" senior week to the beach instead of with all of my classmates so I am going to put the $$ on actual things that wear out. Right now I am going for the stainless steel brake "hoses". Im sure the rubber ones have had there life and I am not waiting until they go. Scary thought! Also if a U-joint went out, then my tire would most likely lock up correct? Im just tired of stuff wearing out. I want to get it fixed up "mechanically" quickly for the beach and if it all turns out well and I have a few extra dollars, I put on something nice. I doubt I will have any spare though. Thanks Repezard. FYI, you spelled CFI-EFI **CFI_EFI** Everyone complains about my english so I figured Id forwarn you to fix yours so you wont get jumped on.
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 02:09 PM
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See Mr. Mojo. Me and Repezard are friends. No more fighting between us.

One more thing to the forum. Off topic I know but I didn't want to start a new thread and I couldn't find what I was looking for by searching. Remember when I asked about the brakelines. I meant to ask about the "Midamerica Stainless Steel Brake Hoses". Would these be better than the stock rubber ones? It says that it makes your pedal feel firmer.. I would think that it would be safer if a rock hit the rubber could damage it, but if it was S.S. it would be less damaged. Thanks!
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by N.C. Kid
Also if a U-joint went out, then my tire would most likely lock up correct?

It could really cause a lot of damage under there if U-Joint went"BOOM".
It could send it through the floor of the car I believe and really mess up other things along the way.

Mine were to the point of clicking and vibrating so it had to be done quickly.
Heres a Video so you can hear how bad they were



So if they're making any noise I wouldn't wait to long or drive the car, theres a lot of torque at those axles.



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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Repzard
It could really cause a lot of damage under there if U-Joint went"BOOM".
It could send it through the floor of the car I believe and really mess up other things along the way.

Mine were to the point of clicking and vibrating so it had to be done quickly.
Heres a Video so you can hear how bad they were



So if they're making any noise I wouldn't wait to long or drive the car, theres a lot of torque at those axles.



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That is so nasty. It reminds me of SAW 3 when that guy was getting his bones broken. Eww, sounds like them crunching. You have a scary voice in that clip ya no.
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by N.C. Kid
That is so nasty. It reminds me of SAW 3 when that guy was getting his bones broken. Eww, sounds like them crunching. You have a scary voice in that clip ya no.
I was hung over that day
Those twisted teas go down good
Yah those U's were pretty far gone
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Repzard
I was hung over that day
Those twisted teas go down good
Yah those U's were pretty far gone
: ROFL : : ROFL :
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by CFI-EFI
That part number is a spin-off of the Spicer part number that isn't coated for aluminum shafts. Either way, they will fit and work, but are those Neapco joints coated for use in aluminum shafts?

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Yes...that is a NEW # for Neapco with the coated bearing caps. Like I said, I just got them and they have the grey coated caps.

Hell, you got me wondering so I went out and looked at them. The complete # is 2-0799 (like mentioned above)...sorry for the confusion.

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The reason I brought it up, was that I posted a chart from Spicer a week or two ago that showed the Spicer 5-799X as a 1350 joint for steel shafts and that the 5-800X is the same joint, coated, for aluminum shafts Often, will fit parts, carry a part number that is similar to or a deviation of the part they are knocking off.

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There is no need to waste money on new brake lines if yours are OK. Does the car stop fine? Inspect the lines, any leaks, bulges? They should swell slightly when someone presses the brake. If you do change them, it will also cost you brake fluid and a line wrench. Maybe it would be better to ask how to check if the "U Joint/Tie rods ect." are still in good shape.
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 06:57 PM
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There is no need to waste money on new brake lines if yours are OK. Does the car stop fine? Inspect the lines, any leaks, bulges? They should swell slightly when someone presses the brake. If you do change them, it will also cost you brake fluid and a line wrench. Maybe it would be better to ask how to check if the "U Joint/Tie rods ect." are still in good shape.
Ok. How do you tell if all these items are in good condition. Lets say they are NOT making noise but just to see what they look like rusted or anything like that. Do I need to take off my rim/wheel? Go thru the back of the car where the driveshaft is? Thanks. Ok. I just wanted to know about the brakelines. If its going to cost more than its worth...the SS ones from midamerica are 110.00. Expensive!!! Daddy told me today that they are just a "gimmick" trying to get your money.
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 07:10 PM
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Has anyone found a website or mail-order outfit that you can order the Neapco Universal Joints from? Ordering and driving locally is a pain in the ..., I like things easy.

Hear is the Neapco catalog link for their best coated U-joints for use with aluminum shafts:

http://www.neapco.com/pdf/Performanc...ed-9901155.pdf
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