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greetings i have a t the moment a fairly stock 1986 corvette, i am experiencing a problem with. on cold start ups for the day, this car is a beast to start! i could crank steady, and the car wont even pop. i just crank for 1 second and stop, wait a couple of seconds and repeat. usually around the 8th time, it starts popping over, than a couple more times like this, and than it starts, and runs flawlessly rest of day. fuel pressure fine, complete tune-up, was no help. is this a suspect for leaking injectors? how do i test for this? it does seem, when car sits overnight, this problem occurs only. also seems that the warmer it gets outside, the tougher it is to start. please some input. i do have a fsm, among other testers. please help me start correcting. THanks for your time.
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greetings i have a t the moment a fairly stock 1986 corvette, i am experiencing a problem with. on cold start ups for the day, this car is a beast to start! i could crank steady, and the car wont even pop. i just crank for 1 second and stop, wait a couple of seconds and repeat. usually around the 8th time, it starts popping over, than a couple more times like this, and than it starts, and runs flawlessly rest of day. fuel pressure fine, complete tune-up, was no help. is this a suspect for leaking injectors? how do i test for this? it does seem, when car sits overnight, this problem occurs only. also seems that the warmer it gets outside, the tougher it is to start. please some input. i do have a fsm, among other testers. please help me start correcting. THanks for your time.
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What do you mean by "fuel pressure fine"? Did you put a pressure gauge on it? What did it read while the engine was running? What did it read when you shut the engine off? If it dropped down to 0 quickly, you might have leaky injectors. There is a test procedure in the FSM for that.
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A minute is relatively quick. Did it go down to 0? You'll get varying responses, but most would be in the 5 minute to 30 minute range of holding pressure. Keep the gauge on for at least 30 minutes or until pressure is 0.
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Try planting the gas pedal to the floor during cranking. This will put the ECM into "Flood Mode" and it will cut back the amount of fuel delivered. If it starts quicker, it may be a sign that you have leaking injector(s).
The FSM has some good info on tracking down fuel delivery problems.
http://members.shaw.ca/corvette86/Fu...mDiagnosis.pdf
The FSM has some good info on tracking down fuel delivery problems.
http://members.shaw.ca/corvette86/Fu...mDiagnosis.pdf
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i did a thorough fuel pressure today on a cold start. i cycled key on, went to 35#. started car up, went to 39#. shut car off, went immediately to 15# after shutting car, and turning key off. after 1 minute, down to 10#. around 15 minutes, read 0 #. i dont think these numbers are oem, so are my injectors leaking down? is this why cold morning starts are tough?
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i did a thorough fuel pressure today on a cold start. i cycled key on, went to 35#. started car up, went to 39#. shut car off, went immediately to 15# after shutting car, and turning key off. after 1 minute, down to 10#. around 15 minutes, read 0 #. i dont think these numbers are oem, so are my injectors leaking down? is this why cold morning starts are tough?
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greetings i have a t the moment a fairly stock 1986 corvette, i am experiencing a problem with. on cold start ups for the day, this car is a beast to start! i could crank steady, and the car wont even pop. i just crank for 1 second and stop, wait a couple of seconds and repeat. usually around the 8th time, it starts popping over, than a couple more times like this, and than it starts, and runs flawlessly rest of day. fuel pressure fine, complete tune-up, was no help. is this a suspect for leaking injectors? how do i test for this? it does seem, when car sits overnight, this problem occurs only. also seems that the warmer it gets outside, the tougher it is to start. please some input. i do have a fsm, among other testers. please help me start correcting. THanks for your time.
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1 second cranks work the best. if i sit and crank steadily, the engine wont do a thing except spin. no popping or kicking. if i will crank for 1 second at a time, it will at least start kicking over around the 8th try.