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Old Jun 17, 2007 | 09:31 PM
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Are coolant temps a good indicator of combustion chamber temps? My coolant temp is generally in the neighborhood of high 170s / low 180s, but today my plugs indicated that combustion chamber temps were a bit high after a few WOT blasts. I saw a few brown / black specs on the porcelain of the plug. Not many at all (and no shiny diamond specs), but I am thinking of dropping one heat range below the stock heat range, which I am currently running.

What has been your experience?
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was this on the juice Dan?
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 05:45 AM
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Hey Joe -

No - all engine. I didn't see any knock counts or knock retard in the data log, and the WB shows 12.9:1 at WOT. Power seemed all there. So I'm thinking instead of dropping the timing, I'll go down a heat range.
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coolant temps are not a good indicator of actual combustion temps.
air/fuel ratio is... at 12.9:1, you are a bit on the lean side for WOT.
not dangerously so, but still a bit richer would certainly bring peak combustion temps down some.

no harm in trying a slightly colder plug though.
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Originally Posted by BigLee
coolant temps are not a good indicator of actual combustion temps.air/fuel ratio is... at 12.9:1, you are a bit on the lean side for WOT.
not dangerously so, but still a bit richer would certainly bring peak combustion temps down some.

no harm in trying a slightly colder plug though.
That's what I was thinking; thanks for confirming.
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 11:36 AM
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in fact, at 12.x f/a ratio you are WAY lean. Ideal is more on the order of 14.8-14.6 or so.

By combustion chamber temps do you mean the metal or the exhaust gases?

If you're talking gases you're up in the 1300 degree F range.

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in fact, at 12.x f/a ratio you are WAY lean. Ideal is more on the order of 14.8-14.6 or so.

By combustion chamber temps do you mean the metal or the exhaust gases?

If you're talking gases you're up in the 1300 degree F range.

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I think you mean rich (based on how you stated it), but at WOT I'm looking to be in the neighborhood of 12.5:1. 14.7 is ideal for cruise, not WOT.

I mean exhaust gas temps, in relation to coolant temps.
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One of the indicators of pre-ignition or detonation are speckles (we call them "fly-shi*) on the porcelain.

You can do a Google search and find some pics and more details on this condition.

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Thanks JAKE - I may end up going a heat range colder AND decreasing the timing a bit in the upper RPM / heavier load ranges.
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