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Mustangs are game for the Camaro and Firebirds, not the Corvette.
If FORD evolved the Thunderbird the way GM did the Corvette, then I could see a comparison, but it looks like the only American car I would consider competition is the Viper.
But that's just me.
Sure you can buy a Mustang cheap and make it accelerate as quick as a vette, but you can do the same to a Camaro.
Of course with GM stopping the F-body, the Mustang won't have any competition.
The Viper is not an American car. It is made by a German owned and operated company. It is made in the USA, but so are Diamond motors cars and they are not Americam either. The Viper was an American car but no more. So the Vipers are not in the running for the American Sports Car Title.
but it looks like the only American car I would consider competition is the Viper.
Yea, that would be our only comp. , well until I read that post bout it being German, but anyway, too bad our only competition is too fast to compete with. Hopefully the C6 will compete with the newest Viper out that year, that will be impressive.
Since we're talking bout American cars, is Vector an American Car company? They make pretty damn fast cars.
You think the Viper is not an American car? Well then if you see it that way, I have news for you bub--the Corvette is not either. A multitude of Vette parts come from Canada. The 6-speed ZF-6, Zahnradfabrik Friedrichshafen, Saarbrücken, GERMANY. Let's not even get into electrical and fuel injection components. We live in a global marketplace.
It doesn't have to do with where the car is built or the parts that are used, but where the dollars end up at the end of the day. And with the Viper the dollars end up at a German company and with the Vette they end up at an American company.
Last time I checked, the parent company was Daimler Chrysler, not Daimler Benz, so there you go-American company.
Besides, the Viper was developed long before the merge.
But my point is not about the Viper being American or not, it's about the Mustang not being in the same class as the vette.
The title of the topic is Mustang VS Vette, not Viper VS Vette.
So you're telling me that when Chrysler owned Lamborghini, that it was an American car and not Italian? I guess Jaguar is now American too.
Now Honda was(and still is) a Japanese company. Sure they build their cars here, but they started out in Japan. Dodge is an American company, it doesn't matter if the parent company merged with a German company, I still consider it a domestic car.
It doesn't have to do with where the car is built or the parts that are used, but where the dollars end up at the end of the day. And with the Viper the dollars end up at a German company and with the Vette they end up at an American company.
Yeah, that's kinda how I feel. Born and raised in Detroit, I will probably never willingly own a foreign badged car (and this does now include Chrysler companies). Just the way I feel.
I agree that is should be corvette vs viper. But around here you see about 250 mustangs to 1 viper and most of them are fast. Every teenager that has a mustang wants to tell all of his buddies he beat a corvette.....I guess thats just how it is. I know my car isn't as fast as Mr Mojos but I do consider all sport cars competition. Ya win some and ya lose some
Since we're talking bout American cars, is Vector an American Car company? They make pretty damn fast cars.
It WAS. Last I heard an Indonesion (sp) company owned them and Lambrogini. They started using the V-12 in the Vector instead of the TT V-8. The way company's change hands and %'s it's hard to tell who owns what now. At one time, Fo*d owned almost 40% of Mazda. Last I heard, they had sold it all back.
1) I think Vette vs. Mustang dates back to the 60's. And I not quite sure but I don't think Viper was around back then :jester .
2) I as of yet have seen a Viper on the road. A boatload of Mustangs, Porsche’s some Little Italian jobs but no vipers. It's hard to pick a fight with a car you can’t find. :boxing
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3) Off the show room floor, I think the Viper will out perform the corvette. 450 hp to 405 hp in 02. But think of this Viper base price is 73K and the corvette 41k to 50,350 base. Again I'm not a power plant expert but I do believe I can get 50 hp increases with 20 to 30K. What do you think :jester?
4) This is the most important point I can make. Mustang is trying to prove it can hang with the big boys. What better way than pick on the king and Corvette is King. A legend, we didn't take a 6 cylinder and cram a turbo in it. We went with the Muscle, America's First Sports Car. At home on the Strip, Track and the street, it has roots that run deep. Every corvette is a little piece. From 1953 to 2002, all you have to do is just look at the lines. She has all the right curves in the right places, it has power, torque, and it will handle. Man will she handle.
5) Why Mustang you ask. To simply put it. THAY STARTED IT! :jester
Sorry this Point is a little off topic
3) Off the show room floor, I think the Viper will out perform the corvette. 450 hp to 405 hp in 02. But think of this Viper base price is 73K and the corvette 41k to 50,350 base. Again I'm not a power plant expert but I do believe I can get 50 hp increases with 20 to 30K. What do you think :jester?
4) This is the most important point I can make. Mustang is trying to prove it can hang with the big boys. What better way than pick on the king and Corvette is King. A legend, we didn't take a 6 cylinder and cram a turbo in it. We went with the Muscle, America's First Sports Car. At home on the Strip, Track and the street, it has roots that run deep. Every corvette is a little piece. From 1953 to 2002, all you have to do is just look at the lines. She has all the right curves in the right places, it has power, torque, and it will handle. Man will she handle.
5) Why Mustang you ask. To simply put it. THAY STARTED IT! :jester
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As for #3 wasn't there a rumor that the Viper was to be up to 500?
I can agree with #4, but if they started it, why do we finish it. What I'm trying to say is, they are a completely different car in a different category, a category that Chrysler lost in 1973 and GM loses next year.
Put a back seat in the vette and it's a different story and the Cobra R has nothing on us(from the few examples I have seen).