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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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so what would be a good cam? and how about a 2400 stall?
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 01:56 PM
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You need the computer tuned for the new parts.
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 10:27 AM
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So are you using your stock cam? Intake swap, that's it? Though you have the Miniram on an otherwise stock L98, it will run very similar ETs as a stock LT1. If you launch it better, you should easily be in the mid 13s with that mph. But its always good to have 30 hp extra as seen in your trap speed. Also, with a Miniram your shift points have to be higher than 4800 like the stock TPI likes. Most Miniram combos I know like to be shifted up at about 5500-5800 rpms to get the best results.
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 86malcomekonnner
so what would be a good cam? and how about a 2400 stall?
A nice basic cam for a Miniram would be the LT4 hot cam or TPIS ZZ9 cam. They seem to dyno about 300-340 to the wheels, depending on the weather and air temp. On my part, the LT4 hotcam required little to no tuning, just run base timing up about 10 degrees so it can idle better. A 2400 stall w/lock up should be great!
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 01:13 PM
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i did replace the cam with a comp cams 218/228 but it looks like i'll be changing it again.
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 86malcomekonnner
haven't done any computer work yet, but that isn't enough to make me slower AFTER the performance work was done.
Quitely the opposite, actually.

You need to set the controls to maximize the performance of the mechanicals. The computer is programmed for a certain amount of intake vaccuum and backpressure. You removed some of both. You need to get the telemetry tuned in.

Pay a pro to reflash/road tune, or buy a chip from Hypertech or pcmforless.
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by hooblyboobly
depending on the weather and air temp.
Weather and temp should have nothing to do with it. Every dyno I have seen automatically corrects to "standard" conditions.

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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by CFI-EFI
No doubt about it. Bad customer service will KILL 1/4 mile performance.

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Of all the thousands of Miniram setups TPiS has sold through the years this guy gets one that doesnt work. How is customer service supposed to deal with people like this. See his reaction when people here try to help figure it out.
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 07:12 PM
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Of all the thousands of Miniram setups TPiS has sold through the years this guy gets one that doesnt work. How is customer service supposed to deal with people like this. See his reaction when people here try to help figure it out.
dude you got it allllll wrong...I'm taking everything in and trying to figure out what my options are. The fact that TPIS claims 75-95 hp on a STOCK L98, yet i still slow down is what got me angry. i appreciate all the knowledge and advice that everyone has thrown in and I've already made a few timing and fuel adjustments that's sped the car up a bit. So before you go bashing me about my "reaction" read the thread in detail.
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Originally Posted by 86malcomekonnner
dude you got it allllll wrong...I'm taking everything in and trying to figure out what my options are. The fact that TPIS claims 75-95 hp on a STOCK L98, yet i still slow down is what got me angry. i appreciate all the knowledge and advice that everyone has thrown in and I've already made a few timing and fuel adjustments that's sped the car up a bit. So before you go bashing me about my "reaction" read the thread in detail.
I went back and re-read and you are write I didnt read all and missed some facts and some of your replies. I have family and friends who are in the horse power business some of who are former employees of TPiS Customers are always badmouthing and blaming the builders. Sometimes rightfully so. Most shops have a few cookie cutter proven wining combos that they can stand behind and can tweak with there eyes closed.
If a customer has something in mind and wants to run with it what is the builder supposed to do. Building a motor is like baking a cake from scratch Who's cake do you want to eat your grandmas or your little sister. I say **** on it and get a cake mix. I apologize
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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 03:19 PM
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After reading this string of posts I had to jump in. You guys are all missing one of the key elements of building a performance engine. Everything has to match as a system. Changing individual parts that aren't matched to the rest of the engine will give you the results you got. Your headers and miniram are going to hurt your performance as long as you maintain the the factory cam and heads. A stock 203 degree intake duration cam is not matched to the high rpm capabilities of the miniram and headers. You've lost loads of torque. Its no wonder you ran slower. FWIW.

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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Vetracr
After reading this string of posts I had to jump in. You guys are all missing one of the key elements of building a performance engine. Everything has to match as a system. Changing individual parts that aren't matched to the rest of the engine will give you the results you got. Your headers and miniram are going to hurt your performance as long as you maintain the the factory cam and heads. A stock 203 degree intake duration cam is not matched to the high rpm capabilities of the miniram and headers. You've lost loads of torque. Its no wonder you ran slower. FWIW.

Larry
That was the gist of my cake baking analogy. Go with some proven combos. These motors have been around a long time and there are some big hp/tq motors in the 10's on here and everything in between. Save your self some grief money and check them out
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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 05:41 PM
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I don't know why everyone keeps saying it went slower - you clearly had a bad 60' with a higher mph. You should be around 13.5-13.6 with the good launch, and the tune/shift points should get you into the low 13's. What was the problem again?
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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by williammackean
Quitely the opposite, actually.

You need to set the controls to maximize the performance of the mechanicals. The computer is programmed for a certain amount of intake vaccuum and backpressure. You removed some of both. You need to get the telemetry tuned in.

Pay a pro to reflash/road tune, or buy a chip from Hypertech or pcmforless.
"The computer is programmed for a certain amount of intake vaccuum and backpressure"

Never heard that before.
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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 06:55 PM
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I CHANGED THE CAM....I'm waiting on a chip from pcm for less. when it arrives i will run the car again and give you my times. hopefully i'll have a better 60'
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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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You cant change the cam and everything else without having the setup retuned and expect it to be alot better. That cam and intake will want a whole different timing and fuel curve than the TPI system.

Theres no reason to be upset right now, this thing needs a chip done.
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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by williammackean
Quitely the opposite, actually.

You need to set the controls to maximize the performance of the mechanicals. The computer is programmed for a certain amount of intake vaccuum and backpressure. You removed some of both. You need to get the telemetry tuned in.

Pay a pro to reflash/road tune, or buy a chip from Hypertech or pcmforless.
This sounds like politician speak! Hypertech is junk!
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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by vader86
Theres no reason to be upset right now, this thing needs a chip done.
im not upset...just not what i expected is all...like i said i'm waiting on a chip from pcmforless now hopefully here by the end of the week
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