Alcohol Injection or there bouts
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Alcohol Injection or there bouts
Would it hurt a stock motor if it all the sudden swallowed a lot of alcohol by accident ??? I don't care if it makes more power just so long as it would'nt hurt anything.
Toying with ideas!
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Neal
Toying with ideas!
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Neal
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Re: Alcohol Injection or there bouts (Arisa)
It won't hurt to run booze... but it won't help...
the only thing that will work with alcohol is higher compression.
you don't wanna run too much alcohol, tho... there are problems here that you need to consider... the biggest, alcohol will harm the rubber and metal components of the engine... CART and IRL, and I suspect WOO, and anyone who runs alcohol engines, pickle them in gas after they run the alcohol. or else things start to rot.
the only thing that will work with alcohol is higher compression.
you don't wanna run too much alcohol, tho... there are problems here that you need to consider... the biggest, alcohol will harm the rubber and metal components of the engine... CART and IRL, and I suspect WOO, and anyone who runs alcohol engines, pickle them in gas after they run the alcohol. or else things start to rot.
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From: BFE texas
Re: Alcohol Injection or there bouts (Arisa)
might you be thinking alcohol+nitrous inj.? :D
otherwise not sure on low comp motor, but on race motor
basicly just fuel sys. rubber and volume,nearly 2x gas.
oh and foam out of fuel cell
Wayne
:cheers:
otherwise not sure on low comp motor, but on race motor
basicly just fuel sys. rubber and volume,nearly 2x gas.
oh and foam out of fuel cell
Wayne
:cheers:
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Re: Alcohol Injection or there bouts (WG87)
I don't believe you can just run some alocohol through your car. I know that you cannot do it on a carb setup. I had to switch carbs and pumps as well as a larger fuel line on my race car when I converted...but then again its a carb setup. Wouldn't it burn the heck out of the valves?
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Re: Alcohol Injection or there bouts (AS84)
WG87, Not even close, but good try
These are the things I need to know about. It wouldn't be all the time, ONLY if another component failed releasing the alcohol into the engine. I just need to know what things could happen if say 1/2 gallon or so "decided" to free itself into the engine. I could care less if it stalled the car, what I don't want is "teardown" problems. IE burn valves, broken crank, etc...........
Thanks so far guys
Neal
Wouldn't it burn the heck out of the valves?
Thanks so far guys
Neal
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Re: Alcohol Injection or there bouts (AS84)
In it's everyday use the alcohol won't be going through the engine, however if the system it will be running in ruptures then it could (depending on the rupture location) deliver itself to the engine for consumption.
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Re: Alcohol Injection or there bouts (Arisa)
Are you planning to use alcohol as the contents of a heat exchanger for your fuel system? Like a "cool can" type of device? What's the story?
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Re: Alcohol Injection or there bouts (Arisa)
ok, I won't even try another guess,but 1/2 gal. of any fluid
into the intake tract and you will probably at least bend rods
and possibly break the crank
Wayne
:seeya
into the intake tract and you will probably at least bend rods
and possibly break the crank
Wayne
:seeya
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Re: Alcohol Injection or there bouts (WG87)
WG87,
I hope I didn't upset you with my comment.
I have learned to keep a pretty tight lid on some of my ideas because I end up getting a whole lot of these :nono: :confused: :lol: :crazy: If you know what I mean. The only way *we* can learn is through expermentation so I experment. I am sure someone else has probably tried what I am thinking about & it didn't do diddley, but that's how I have fun. I just love to tinker. I hope you understand.
Neal
I hope I didn't upset you with my comment.
I have learned to keep a pretty tight lid on some of my ideas because I end up getting a whole lot of these :nono: :confused: :lol: :crazy: If you know what I mean. The only way *we* can learn is through expermentation so I experment. I am sure someone else has probably tried what I am thinking about & it didn't do diddley, but that's how I have fun. I just love to tinker. I hope you understand.
Neal
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Re: Alcohol Injection or there bouts (Arisa)
WG87,
I hope I didn't upset you with my comment.
I have learned to keep a pretty tight lid on some of my ideas because I end up getting a whole lot of these :nono: :confused: :lol: :crazy: If you know what I mean. The only way *we* can learn is through expermentation so I experment. I am sure someone else has probably tried what I am thinking about & it didn't do diddley, but that's how I have fun. I just love to tinker. I hope you understand.
Neal
I hope I didn't upset you with my comment.
I have learned to keep a pretty tight lid on some of my ideas because I end up getting a whole lot of these :nono: :confused: :lol: :crazy: If you know what I mean. The only way *we* can learn is through expermentation so I experment. I am sure someone else has probably tried what I am thinking about & it didn't do diddley, but that's how I have fun. I just love to tinker. I hope you understand.
Neal
Neal,
not at all, I really was just out of guesses!
:cheers:
Wayne
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From: Probably in the paint booth....
Re: Alcohol Injection or there bouts (GRX)
Is it methanol (wood alcohol) that you want to experiment with?
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Re: Alcohol Injection or there bouts (Arisa)
Old timer talk again :cool: I had a friend many years ago that had a 58 Chevy, 348, tripower. He used a tank, pump, and hose for a windshield washer. He routed the hose into the air intake. When he wanted a shot of alcohol from the windshield washer tank he just bumped the switch. Did it help? Did it hurt? Was it cool to talk about? You bet! :cool:
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Re: Alcohol Injection or there bouts (Larry Mackey)
He used a normal windshield washer pump................hummmmmmmmm......... .........that may solve my circulation problem............cheaply..........
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Neal
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Neal