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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CFI-EFI
When the ECM commands a fast idle, the throttle, and therefore the TPS voltage, never changes. ECM commands and vacuum leaks don't move the throttle blades. TPS stands for Throttle POSITION Sensor.
If you twist the TPS by hand, the idle will increase, FWIW.

Not worth much in this thread though.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CentralCoaster
If you twist the TPS by hand, the idle will increase, FWIW.

Not worth much in this thread though.
And you just confused probably 80% of the people that have read this thread.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by CFI-EFI
"If the TPS has been moved". If! If I had... There was no mention of moving or changing the TPS adjustment. You are trying to create a situation here, that the OP hasn't indicated exists. As I said, if the idle is too fast because of a ECT sensor or a vacuum leak, the throttle and therefore throttle position sensor doesn't move.

Checking the TPS voltage, other than confirming that it is within the non-adjustable TPS standards and establishing that it is functioning properly, will prove nothing. Whatever the voltage, the computer accepts the lowest reading as closed throttle.

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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 02:46 PM
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Dads90, keep us posted on what you find.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 10:42 PM
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follow the large vacuum line over the left rocker cover to the area under the left headlight. It should be there.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 11:19 PM
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I reset the IAC. Didn't let it get up to running temp on the last reset. That made a difference. I did check the voltage on the TPS, .54. Followed the procedure step for step. Its for an 89, I didn't think it matters mine being a 90. Also had the base timing at 12* BDC to prevent a intermitent knock. Moved it to 8* BDC. Now the results.. It runs better, the idle does drop to 720 RPM when warm. The temperture seems to affect the idle speed like it should. Test drive results sometimes returning to 725 and then the next stop sign it stays at 900-1000. But now the knock starts to occur when it sets at a idle. That problem only resolved itself when I turned the timing to 12*. Will test drive to work tomorrow and watch temp, idle and knock and let y'all know tomorrow. Oh CoupeGuy, I found that canister, how can I check if it's stuck open. Thanks to all for your help. I feel I have made progress on this matter. I feel it will be something simple and yalls input keeps me trying.
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Dads90
I reset the IAC. Didn't let it get up to running temp on the last reset. That made a difference. I did check the voltage on the TPS, .54.
That is fine, but on a '90 with the non-adjustable TPS, it isn't critical.



Originally Posted by Dads90
Also had the base timing at 12* BDC to prevent a intermitent knock. Moved it to 8* BDC.
It should be more prone to knock with 12° timing then with the base timing (EST disconnected) than at the spec, 6° or even 8°.



Originally Posted by Dads90
Now the results.. It runs better, the idle does drop to 720 RPM when warm. The temperture seems to affect the idle speed like it should. Test drive results sometimes returning to 725 and then the next stop sign it stays at 900-1000.
That sounds like the throttle body worn in the holes (bores) the throttle shaft passes through.



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But now the knock starts to occur when it sets at a idle. That problem only resolved itself when I turned the timing to 12*.
That shouldn't be spark knock (detonation) you hear at idle. Usually it is worse under load (accelerating) and when the timing is advanced more than spec. The ESC should silence any spark knock. Maybe what you are hearing is piston slap, a rod, or a wrist pin. In other words, mechanical noise, not pinging.



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I found that canister, how can I check if it's stuck open.
Just disconnect the vacuum line at the engine and plug the vacuum source, the PCV valve on mine.

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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 11:09 PM
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Thanks CFI-EFI, all good points. It sure does idle smoother since I did the IAC reset. I will start a new thread about timing and knock issue.
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