Short Shifter Anyone?
Pro
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From: Ontario California
Hurst Shifter on the way
It's interesting to read all the comments on the two shifters...B&M and Hurst. I have ordered a Hurst, and it should be here by mid-week. I chose the Hurst, because of what I have read on the forum. It seems its has run about three to one....in favor of the Hurst. It was mentioned that the Hurst was a better all around shifter...and the B&M more for drag racing. Since 99.9 % of my driving is on the street...I wanted something I could live with. Also the reverse lock-out ring has always had a rattle to it...as did the lock outs on the old T-10 4-speeds, so I would be happy to get rid of that sound.
I have a Corvette mechanic, who I will have install mine. I don't have the time, tools are expertise to tackle that job myself. I will let everyone know how I like the Hurst, after its installed.
I have a Corvette mechanic, who I will have install mine. I don't have the time, tools are expertise to tackle that job myself. I will let everyone know how I like the Hurst, after its installed.
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From: altered state
St. Jude Donor '05
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From: Lower wetland Gods country
B&m
I used the B&M Ripper shifter in my 92. Having read some of the posts with respect to the install, I was a little concerned about doing it myself. As it turns out, it was a piece of cake. As for the shifter itself, I love it. A huge improvement over the stock shifter. I don't find the extra effort required to shift any sort of problem. The shifter is incredibly precise. The only time I have any problems is when I try to aim the shifter into the next gear. It lines itself up on it's own. So long as you let it do it's job, no issues. Can't provide an opinion on the Hurst shifter as I have not driven a car with one installed. Can only speak for the B&M. It's great, well worth the money.
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From: San Diego , CA Double Yellow DirtBags 1985..Z51..6-speed
It is a pain in the ***.
Once you get the shifter out, reassembling it is tedious too. And I'm not one of those types that struggles to change spark plug wires or anything.
Once you get the shifter out, reassembling it is tedious too. And I'm not one of those types that struggles to change spark plug wires or anything.
Drifting
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From: Lakeport CA
Just to throw anther option out there late in the thread... I have the shortened stock unit by ZFDoc. Works great, retains the lockout ring etc. He installed & shimmed for me with my rebuild so it is prob. as close to perfect as you can get.
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Melting Slicks
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From: Strongsville Ohio
well my dvd player. folds out and its a close call in 1,3,5th. but it makes it. the smoothness and shortness is what i want.. well i thank you for all the info. looks like ill have someone put it in for me...cant wait..ill go with the hurst. since i have a hurst **** too
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Melting Slicks
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From: Raleigh, NC
Derek-
Chris and I both have B&M Ripper shifters in our cars. You're welcome to come shift mine if you'd like. I think if I could go back, I'd probably go with the hurst shifter over the B&M. The B&M is a million times better than stock, but the extra effort and notchiness gets a little old during around town driving.
If all you are concerned about is adding some clearance to the stereo, the B&M should be a bit shorter than the hurst, and it won't move forward as far in the odd numbered gears as the Hurst.
The install isn't hard, but it is time consuming. I'll help you install it if you want.
You do have to get under the car and tap out a roll pin, there's no way to do all the work from the drivers seat.
Chris and I both have B&M Ripper shifters in our cars. You're welcome to come shift mine if you'd like. I think if I could go back, I'd probably go with the hurst shifter over the B&M. The B&M is a million times better than stock, but the extra effort and notchiness gets a little old during around town driving.
If all you are concerned about is adding some clearance to the stereo, the B&M should be a bit shorter than the hurst, and it won't move forward as far in the odd numbered gears as the Hurst.
The install isn't hard, but it is time consuming. I'll help you install it if you want.
You do have to get under the car and tap out a roll pin, there's no way to do all the work from the drivers seat.
Drifting
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From: Lorena Texas
I have one car with the B&M and one with the Hurst. Hurst by a land slide. The effort with the B&M is too high. When I installed mine I had to lower the rear of the trans. That means removing the beam.
Drifting
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There's been times with my B&M that it has just seemed to take just too much effort. But I really like the short throw and precision it has.
Burning Brakes
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From: Houston PA
[QUOTE=F1Fan;1562244475]Do you think that is really only because of the leverage of the slightly longer throw that the Hurst has over the B&M that makes it easier to shift?
Yes, the short height does have something to do with it, I have noticed this in other short throw applications. I can shift mine with my wrist, my elbow does not move, the throws are so short. My wife shifts it with no problem, its not like you have to be super strong to shift these things.
Yes, the short height does have something to do with it, I have noticed this in other short throw applications. I can shift mine with my wrist, my elbow does not move, the throws are so short. My wife shifts it with no problem, its not like you have to be super strong to shift these things.