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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 12:27 AM
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After my post the other day about vac problems I started changing the plug wires as suggested. Since then I seem to have found words in my vocabulary that I hadn't used in years.

I now have a distributor without cap or wires. Since I am at this point I decided it might be a good idea to go ahead and replace the oil pressure switch. Seems to be in a location that will GREATLY expand my forgotten vocab.

The question is to anyone that has done this, what size wrench does this take? And how did you get to it? It looks as if removing the other switch would make it much easier and if that is the case what size socket would you use to remove that?

Thanks in advance. And yes I did find the #1 plug and marked the new cap before I removed it.
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 12:51 AM
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Thats a 1 1/16" special socket for the oil warning light sensor.NAPA has them.Change it while your at it.Can't remember the size on the pressure switch but it's stock.Maybe 9/16 or 5/8.Life is a lot easier if you pull the distributor to do this. Be careful there are some small vacuum lines lurking in there and easy to break on older cars.
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 10:19 AM
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I removed the windshield wiper motor to get to those things on my 85. Very accessible then.
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by aj1988
Since I am at this point I decided it might be a good idea to go ahead and replace the oil pressure switch.

It looks as if removing the other switch would make it much easier and if that is the case what size socket would you use to remove that?
If you are referring to the two electrical devices on the single 1/8" pipe tree, behind the distributor, the large can with a single wire is the oil pressure gauge sending unit. The smaller, two wire device is the oil pressure switch. Neither are "maintenance" items. They aren't normally changed at regular intervals, like a fuel filter. I would think, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".

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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 05:50 PM
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CFI-EFI,

if you can get to the switch, I would agree it is a good idea to replace it -- preventitive maintenance is never a bad thing.

Case in point, on a 1985 Lincoln, 5 weeks ago I changed the oil & filter and inspected for leaks and there were none. 2 weeks ago, I had to replace the oil pressure sending unit, it was leaking an amazing amount of oil while sitting at idle in the driveway.

BTW, the socket was also a 1 1/16" socket, but oddly enough, it had to be a six (6) point deep socket, a twelve (12) point socket would not work!
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 06:07 PM
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CFI-EFI,

if you can get to the switch, I would agree it is a good idea to replace it -- preventitive maintenance is never a bad thing.

Case in point, on a 1985 Lincoln, 5 weeks ago I changed the oil & filter and inspected for leaks and there were none. 2 weeks ago, I had to replace the oil pressure sending unit, it was leaking an amazing amount of oil while sitting at idle in the driveway.

BTW, the socket was also a 1 1/16" socket, but oddly enough, it had to be a six (6) point deep socket, a twelve (12) point socket would not work!
I just grabbed the napa socket for $7.Here's a pic of my oil light sender.That flimsy diaphragm broke and let all the oil out of the engine.Luckily I noticed the smoke trail before any serious damage incurred.Spend $20 now or maybe $5000 later.

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Originally Posted by theadmiral94
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if you can get to the switch, I would agree it is a good idea to replace it -- preventitive maintenance is never a bad thing.
Then maybe, because the distributor cap is already off, he should replace the engine. If you replace everything, just because you can see it, and are afraid it might fail someday, you will have a never ending job. I am not saying that it won't or can't fail, but it may not in your lifetime. And if it does, it can be dealt with. Those tires won't last forever, maybe they ought to go, too.

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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by CFI-EFI
Then maybe, because the distributor cap is already off, he should replace the engine. If you replace everything, just because you can see it, and are afraid it might fail someday, you will have a never ending job. I am not saying that it won't or can't fail, but it may not in your lifetime. And if it does, it can be dealt with. Those tires won't last forever, maybe they ought to go, too.

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Sorry, my mistake when I did the post. I have the typical always reading 80 lbs on the guage. I have read here before that it is usually the switch that is bad. That is what I ment when I said that since I could get to it easily at this point I might as well go ahead and do it.

I did get the socket and the one came off very easily. At that point I took a 9/16 open end and removed to 'lower' sensor. It was sort of a pain to get the new one to screw in since it was by feel only, but at this point they are both back where they should be.

Thanks for the advice on the sizes I needed. Sure did make it easier to actually start with an idea of what I was doing before I started.

For anyone else like me that have no idea of what I am talking about here is a pic I took after I got done.


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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by aj1988
Sorry, my mistake when I did the post. I have the typical always reading 80 lbs on the guage. I have read here before that it is usually the switch that is bad. That is what I ment when I said that since I could get to it easily at this point I might as well go ahead and do it.

I did get the socket and the one came off very easily. At that point I took a 9/16 open end and removed to 'lower' sensor. It was sort of a pain to get the new one to screw in since it was by feel only, but at this point they are both back where they should be.

Thanks for the advice on the sizes I needed. Sure did make it easier to actually start with an idea of what I was doing before I started.

For anyone else like me that have no idea of what I am talking about here is a pic I took after I got done.

Please don't apologise,none needed.When it comes to cheap stuff that's a pain to get to especially on older vehicles I change it out.As a pilot I'm a believer in preventative maintenance.Some people obviously are not. Penney saved,pound foolish-a good old English adage.
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Originally Posted by staugur
Please don't apologise,none needed.When it comes to cheap stuff that's a pain to get to especially on older vehicles I change it out.As a pilot I'm a believer in preventative maintenance.Some people obviously are not. Penney saved,pound foolish-a good old English adage.
I have no experience with aviation parts or repair but do have plenty fixing cars so I'll say this. With so many car parts being sold that are made God knows where, I don't feel replacement is any guarantee of increased reliability and could in fact have the opposite effect. IF the new part works at all!
I follow your thinking when it comes to replacement of inexpensive parts when accessible for related work but to me it is a dice toss not a sure bet.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by aj1988
Sorry, my mistake when I did the post. I have the typical always reading 80 lbs on the guage. I have read here before that it is usually the switch that is bad. That is what I ment when I said that since I could get to it easily at this point I might as well go ahead and do it.
That puts a whole different spin on things. I stand by my statement of not replacing a functioning item, just because it becomes accessible. However, it isn't the switch that controls the dash gauge. The oil pressure switch closes a circuit, when oil pressure reaches approximately 4 psi, that feeds current to the fuel pump as a back up to the relay, in case of fuel pump relay failure. It is the oil pressure sender that works the gauge. I explained how to tell the difference in my first post.



Originally Posted by staugur
As a pilot I'm a believer in preventative maintenance.Some people obviously are not. Penney saved,pound foolish-a good old English adage.
"Some people obviously are not" Are not WHAT? I am not a pilot. I very much believe in maintenance. Certain items have an expected life, and should be replaced before an anticipated failure, especially if it affects the safety of operation. An oil pressure gauge sending unit, in a car, doesn't qualify on either count. As I said, "If you replace everything, just because you can see it, and are afraid it might fail someday, you will have a never ending job.".

"Penney saved,pound foolish-a good old English adage." FYI, the adage is "Penny wise, pound foolish". There is a "Penney (sic) saved," saying, which is more applicable, here. It is "A penny saved is a penny earned". Either way, a penny is NOT a good insulator.

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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 07:57 PM
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Thanks to all for the help. For the first time since I bought the car my oil pressure guage no longer reads 80lbs. I started it and it showed 53lbs which seems just a little high, but the engine is cold and did not run long enough to start to drop.

Again, thanks for the help.
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Isn't it penny wise dollar foolish? Arn't we mixing currency otherwise. What auto store in U.S.A even excepts Pounds? A Penny saved is just another worthless Slug in your pocket...
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