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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 07:00 AM
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i have a 87 coupe w 185000 miles on it. the last week ive had a few problems with it starting.On occasion, i will crank the key and it just keeps turning over and wont fire. i can sit for a few min and it will fire right up. I had my wife turn the key during one of the times that it wouldnt start,and i did not hear the fuel pump kick on,but then 5 min later, it was fine. Also, yesterday as i was driving home, i noticed that the range guage and the ave fuel guage went to 0. could these to problems be related? any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 10:37 AM
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wow, dude... you need the Helm Factory Service Manual.

Something is amiss, and that book as the diagnostic trouble-shooting guides that will help isolate it. Seriously.

As a SWAG, check the Fuel Pump Relay.
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by bogus
wow, dude... you need the Helm Factory Service Manual.

Something is amiss, and that book as the diagnostic trouble-shooting guides that will help isolate it. Seriously.

As a SWAG, check the Fuel Pump Relay.

Check the Fuel pressure too both when it will and wont start
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 12:28 PM
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There's a fuel pump enable relay as part of the dreaded VATS sytem along with the starter enable relay.I know from personal experience the starter relay can become intermittent so perhaps the other can too.Check out www.vatssucks.com

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Default thanks for suggestion, .

i bypassed vats about 4 mos ago because it was giving me some issues
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 02:42 PM
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Check the wires going into the fuel pump relay connector, pull it off the firewall and take a look......my wires insulation had shrunk back about an inch and wires were coming into contact with one another...other members have found the same thing. You may want to also check the connection to the fuel pump itself, and you can try using a jumper wire from the positive terminal on the battery to terminal G on the ALDL, this provide 12 volts directly to the fuel pump and bypasses the circuit...your fuel pump should run until you disconnect the wire. If it does it points to a problem in the wiring going to the fuel pump.
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by tlvols75
i bypassed vats about 4 mos ago because it was giving me some issues
What exactly did you do?There's a reason why I ask.
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 04:31 PM
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[QUOTE=rick lambert;1562580071you can try using a jumper wire from the positive terminal on the battery to terminal G on the ALDL, this provide 12 volts directly to the fuel pump and bypasses the circuit...your fuel pump should run until you disconnect the wire. If it does it points to a problem in the wiring going to the fuel pump.[/QUOTE]
If the pump doesn't run it has gone south. I would suspect this is the case.
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Old Nov 5, 2007 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by staugur
What exactly did you do?There's a reason why I ask.

i bypassed it using the resistor method from "vatssucks"
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Originally Posted by tlvols75
i bypassed it using the resistor method from "vatssucks"
Ok that's why I asked. You have taken the key out of the equation but your starter enable/fuel pump relays are still functioning and could still be your problem.
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The range dropping to zero would indicate to me that you having a wiring problem. Because the Fuel Sender Unit and the Fuel Pump run off different wires. But if you have a short in the fuelsender wire it will cause the range to either zero out or Max depending the ohms. I had the wire to my fuel sender go bad at the connector located in the back next to the firewall.
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Old Nov 5, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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Don't know if this helpgs but on my 86 - the fuel range and avg mileage goes to zero whenever I am in the ALDL diagnostic mode (i.e. data logging).
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