vortex cold air intake question
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vortex cold air intake question
i have an opportunity to pick up a vortex cold air intake for +/-$125.00 and need some opinions.
1) is it worth the money (it lists for $300.00+/- but not what i mean) in the effort it takes to install? i read somewhere that it involves the cutting of the radiator shroud..
2) the air filter for it lists +/=$49.00 .
3) is there another round type filter that could take it's place inexpensively?
4) anyone actually using one?
thanks.
1) is it worth the money (it lists for $300.00+/- but not what i mean) in the effort it takes to install? i read somewhere that it involves the cutting of the radiator shroud..
2) the air filter for it lists +/=$49.00 .
3) is there another round type filter that could take it's place inexpensively?
4) anyone actually using one?
thanks.
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yeah you have to cut the rad shroud to install it. it a pretty good kit....true cold air. if you not going to buy it would you give me the info so i can get it for my race car. i has no air box in it at all just a k&n attached to throttle body lol
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thanks for the reply. so, you are not currently using one or have used one in the past sir? was curious as to how much cutting was involved and NOTICABLE performance gain(s).
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as taken from the ecklers site;
Corvette Cold Air System, With Clear Cover, BPP Vortex Rammer, 1985-1989
* Up to 22hp Increase
* 5mph & 3.5 Tenths in ¼ Mile
* Replaces Stock Air Box
The Vortex Rammer obtains cool, pressurized air from the radiator cavity, drives it through the radiator shroud into the specialty designed scoop and forces it into the Rammer sealed box. On C4's it is then routed into a revolutionary air cleaner that contains an internal velocity stack. The radiator shroud requires a simple cut-out on all installations. Available with a black or clear scoop that houses the filter. Installation hardware and instructions included.
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i had one on my c6. i have put them on several customers with c4's cars as it the only true cold air kit for a c4. they good for 3 tenths on the c5 c6. i have no track data on the c4's though. the hole you have to cut is the size of a piece of paper...or a lil bit smaller. does get real cold air from outside the engine compartment.....won't get 22 hp form it that i can tell yu 100% for sure
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i may just toy with it for a while.
as taken from the ecklers site;
Corvette Cold Air System, With Clear Cover, BPP Vortex Rammer, 1985-1989
* Up to 22hp Increase
* 5mph & 3.5 Tenths in ¼ Mile
* Replaces Stock Air Box
The Vortex Rammer obtains cool, pressurized air from the radiator cavity, drives it through the radiator shroud into the specialty designed scoop and forces it into the Rammer sealed box. On C4's it is then routed into a revolutionary air cleaner that contains an internal velocity stack. The radiator shroud requires a simple cut-out on all installations. Available with a black or clear scoop that houses the filter. Installation hardware and instructions included.
as taken from the ecklers site;
Corvette Cold Air System, With Clear Cover, BPP Vortex Rammer, 1985-1989
* Up to 22hp Increase
* 5mph & 3.5 Tenths in ¼ Mile
* Replaces Stock Air Box
The Vortex Rammer obtains cool, pressurized air from the radiator cavity, drives it through the radiator shroud into the specialty designed scoop and forces it into the Rammer sealed box. On C4's it is then routed into a revolutionary air cleaner that contains an internal velocity stack. The radiator shroud requires a simple cut-out on all installations. Available with a black or clear scoop that houses the filter. Installation hardware and instructions included.
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i had one on my c6. i have put them on several customers with c4's cars as it the only true cold air kit for a c4. they good for 3 tenths on the c5 c6. i have no track data on the c4's though. the hole you have to cut is the size of a piece of paper...or a lil bit smaller. does get real cold air from outside the engine compartment.....won't get 22 hp form it that i can tell yu 100% for sure
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for the most part, i don't believe most of what i read unless i can verify it, especially from advertisers. i take it all with a grain of salt for sure!
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Lot's of guy's have em on and alot complain about the airbox either warping from the heat or cracking. I guess i'm lucky mine never cracked or warped. It's a really good idea gettin the cold air in but just made cheaply. I should have made a test at the strip before I installed it and after. It's a good practice to keep that cone filter clean and re oiled often. I still have mine on and no problems.
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Lot's of guy's have em on and alot complain about the airbox either warping from the heat or cracking. I guess i'm lucky mine never cracked or warped. It's a really good idea gettin the cold air in but just made cheaply. I should have made a test at the strip before I installed it and after. It's a good practice to keep that cone filter clean and re oiled often. I still have mine on and no problems. Pipe
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ecklers is like me or any other vender.... just using the info given to them as a description of the product. if you call me you won't hear 22 hp coming out of my lips, lots of time we are restricted on price and descrition of the products that we put on our sites
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well, like any vendor here or anywhere else, i usually don't believe a word they say unless the item is tested by independent entities as well as actual users not affiliated in any way with the marketing,distribution or advertising of the item. think i have all the info i need...thanks.
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not saying you can not believe what they say by any means. some places just sell parts so they just repeat what the manu says. we sell and install them so we have a lot more idea what the parts will do. as for the breathless box...i said if you don't want it i do...that should tell you something!!
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I currently have a cold air intake on my '92. Its been on there for several years.
When I first got it I attached a pressure Gage where the air temperature sensor was. I wanted to see if I could get any ram-air affect (boost). To make a long story short at 90 mph with no air filter and at WOT I started detecting a slight pressure of about 10" of water.
I think but I may be wrong about 28" of water column is equal to 1 psi.
If 1 psi is equal to about 10HP then 10" of water is equal to about 3HP and that is at 90mph. The HP increase from cooler air can be added to the ram air affect and you might get a whole 5 HP???
The cold air intake probably helps a little but not much bang for the bucks!
When I first got it I attached a pressure Gage where the air temperature sensor was. I wanted to see if I could get any ram-air affect (boost). To make a long story short at 90 mph with no air filter and at WOT I started detecting a slight pressure of about 10" of water.
I think but I may be wrong about 28" of water column is equal to 1 psi.
If 1 psi is equal to about 10HP then 10" of water is equal to about 3HP and that is at 90mph. The HP increase from cooler air can be added to the ram air affect and you might get a whole 5 HP???
The cold air intake probably helps a little but not much bang for the bucks!