poly front control arm bushing
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Melting Slicks
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poly front control arm bushing
hey guys,
i was talking to few friends and one of them said somthing about poly bushing will lower the front of are cars, becuase stock rubber bushings binds???? is that true
i was talking to few friends and one of them said somthing about poly bushing will lower the front of are cars, becuase stock rubber bushings binds???? is that true
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My stock front bushings were binding but that was because the rubber fused to the inner sleeves. I lowered my front end and got vitually no drop until I put the polys in, which allowed the suspension to move, and softened up the ride.
I'd say poly is more likely to bind during installation due to poor manufacturing, some of us have had to do some clearancing to make it work properly. I think there's a reason people say poly stiffened up their suspension and caused squeaks, its because it's binding on the sides of the bushings.
I'd say poly is more likely to bind during installation due to poor manufacturing, some of us have had to do some clearancing to make it work properly. I think there's a reason people say poly stiffened up their suspension and caused squeaks, its because it's binding on the sides of the bushings.
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thanks guys, i started to take my front end apart last night, i took everything off, but for some reason the spring does not want to come out. one thing i noticed was my lower control arms binding, i had to force the lower control arm to stay down while pulling on the springs. the control arm would not stay down as soon as i take force off it , it pulls rigt back up, could this be a sign of bad bushings? and could this be why my front end sits so dam high. i did take alot of weight off the car but talking to more people they say that weight doesnt effect the spring rate as musch unless i have a very soft spring...thanks
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Weight of the car doesn't effect spring rate. The front spring rate is fairly constant on these. Weight would only effect the rate on a progressive spring.
It sounds like your lower control arm bushings are binding. When this happens the rubber tears during suspension movement. It stiffens up your ride uncontrollably, stresses the suspension arms, and makes it generally ride like crap, or at least, not as God intended. I would get a full kit and replace them a little at a time. If those are that bad, the others can't be far behind.
When I removed my steering knuckles, I was able to stand on top of the upper ball joint and the control arm would not rotate more than a 1/2" or so. I had all my weight on it (I don't weigh much) but that gives you an idea how bad siezed bushings can be.
It sounds like your lower control arm bushings are binding. When this happens the rubber tears during suspension movement. It stiffens up your ride uncontrollably, stresses the suspension arms, and makes it generally ride like crap, or at least, not as God intended. I would get a full kit and replace them a little at a time. If those are that bad, the others can't be far behind.
When I removed my steering knuckles, I was able to stand on top of the upper ball joint and the control arm would not rotate more than a 1/2" or so. I had all my weight on it (I don't weigh much) but that gives you an idea how bad siezed bushings can be.
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thats what my friend that was helping me work on the front said. poly is the way to go, i just orderd a set .
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The sad part is the polys will bind if the bushing is wider than the inner sleeve. This can be the unintended result of poor manufacturing. Make sure they rotate freely. Because polyurethane is not very flexible. If it binds badly, you could break a control arm, or your teeth.
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The sad part is the polys will bind if the bushing is wider than the inner sleeve. This can be the unintended result of poor manufacturing. Make sure they rotate freely. Because polyurethane is not very flexible. If it binds badly, you could break a control arm, or your teeth.
not sure on the rotate freely part?? do you mean the control arm movment ???
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