Hybrid intake?
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Melting Slicks
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Hybrid intake?
So, with the MR, SR, HSR, et.al, has anyone ever taken something like an Edlebrock Victor (or whatever) and put on some sort of tunnel (homemade or adapted TPI plenum) to make some sort of hybrid TPI replacement?
Just curious if it would even be worth the effort...
Just curious if it would even be worth the effort...
Drifting
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From: San Antonio Texas
Several people on the Forum here run modified single-plane intakes with fabricated Plenums. Edlebrock offers the #29785 and 4 or 5 Elbows have just been introduced. I haven't heard where anyone has tried one yet; or the manifold either. Professional Products has one too, but I'm not familiar with the company... probably Chi nock-off of the Super-Victor.
Burning Brakes
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People run throttle bodies on single plane intakes all the time. It's the best of both worlds; electronic fuel injection reliability on an intake that can support 8000+ rpm on a big inch small block.
Le Mans Master
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I picked up a single plane with 90 degree elbow, off the forum here. I need a highrise hood because the plenum is too tall. or someone to do some work on it.
Callaway sledgehammer had a dual carb intake with what looks like the TPI plenum mounted to it.
Callaway sledgehammer had a dual carb intake with what looks like the TPI plenum mounted to it.
Instructor
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I have been looking into this a bit myself looks like great alternative, but I need more info.
Yes the Professional Products are China Knock offs of Edlebrocks intakes.
Edlebrock has the intake and the Elbow like mentioined above, haven't looked at price yet but sure its up there, EFI is like Boats (or Vettes) everything is higher because of it. You can buy a Carb intake for 150 call it EFI and its worth 300+
My .02 cents
Joe
Yes the Professional Products are China Knock offs of Edlebrocks intakes.
Edlebrock has the intake and the Elbow like mentioined above, haven't looked at price yet but sure its up there, EFI is like Boats (or Vettes) everything is higher because of it. You can buy a Carb intake for 150 call it EFI and its worth 300+
My .02 cents
Joe
Drifting
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Summit has the intake @ $326...fuel rails are $80 (necessary?) The Elbows are $120(#3847) or the "Box" type (#3850) for $150. The Els require an LS Throttle Body, and I don't know for sure what part combos would fit under a stock hood, but it looks promising. I figure the Bottom-end power would equal a Mini-Ram at least; Mid and Hi range should be better. I think a modified Victor Jr might perform even better than the above manifold, on the street. JMHO
Instructor
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hybrid intake
Summit has the intake @ $326...fuel rails are $80 (necessary?) The Elbows are $120(#3847) or the "Box" type (#3850) for $150. The Els require an LS Throttle Body, and I don't know for sure what part combos would fit under a stock hood, but it looks promising. I figure the Bottom-end power would equal a Mini-Ram at least; Mid and Hi range should be better. I think a modified Victor Jr might perform even better than the above manifold, on the street. JMHO
Safety Car
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I went the large tube runner, SR, then MRII. Due to issues with varied A/F ratios front to rear (front rich, rear lean) when pushing higher HP levels, I finally exited the MRII. I then went to a C4SP.
I bought the Weiand Team G converted intake used. Had I known then what I know now, I would have fabbed it myself. The unit that I purchased was prone to injectors coming loose from the fuel rail (read as raw fuel spewing all over everything, including hot headers), that nearly cost me my car. And the prev owner had suggested that I "might" want to consider stanchions to support the rails vs the method originally used.
Anywho, much welding and machine work later I now have an intake that works well. A/F ratios are consistant between cylinders, and it clears the factory hood. Once the design was right, it was fully powdercoated and looks quite nice.
Intake before install.
Intake on car
Aaron
I bought the Weiand Team G converted intake used. Had I known then what I know now, I would have fabbed it myself. The unit that I purchased was prone to injectors coming loose from the fuel rail (read as raw fuel spewing all over everything, including hot headers), that nearly cost me my car. And the prev owner had suggested that I "might" want to consider stanchions to support the rails vs the method originally used.
Anywho, much welding and machine work later I now have an intake that works well. A/F ratios are consistant between cylinders, and it clears the factory hood. Once the design was right, it was fully powdercoated and looks quite nice.
Intake before install.
Intake on car
Aaron
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Burning Brakes
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From: Troy Ohio
Can be used on a 350?
Can this unit be used on a 350, or is it only for use on larger cubes like 383 or larger?
I went the large tube runner, SR, then MRII. Due to issues with varied A/F ratios front to rear (front rich, rear lean) when pushing higher HP levels, I finally exited the MRII. I then went to a C4SP.
I bought the Weiand Team G converted intake used. Had I known then what I know now, I would have fabbed it myself. The unit that I purchased was prone to injectors coming loose from the fuel rail (read as raw fuel spewing all over everything, including hot headers), that nearly cost me my car. And the prev owner had suggested that I "might" want to consider stanchions to support the rails vs the method originally used.
Anywho, much welding and machine work later I now have an intake that works well. A/F ratios are consistant between cylinders, and it clears the factory hood. Once the design was right, it was fully powdercoated and looks quite nice.
Intake before install.
Intake on car
Aaron
I bought the Weiand Team G converted intake used. Had I known then what I know now, I would have fabbed it myself. The unit that I purchased was prone to injectors coming loose from the fuel rail (read as raw fuel spewing all over everything, including hot headers), that nearly cost me my car. And the prev owner had suggested that I "might" want to consider stanchions to support the rails vs the method originally used.
Anywho, much welding and machine work later I now have an intake that works well. A/F ratios are consistant between cylinders, and it clears the factory hood. Once the design was right, it was fully powdercoated and looks quite nice.
Intake before install.
Intake on car
Aaron
Safety Car
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All of the parts were one-off. But, www.intakeelbows.com sells a similar elbow that should clear a stock C4 hood. There are also numerous examples of single plane 4BBL intakes that are readily available with fuel injector bungs cast with the manifold.
With regard to the size of the engine, a smaller displacement engine will obviouly loose some low end power, but there are many cars on this board that have ample low end, and could use a loss of low end (and subsequent increase in top end HP) to improve their cars short times.
Aaron
With regard to the size of the engine, a smaller displacement engine will obviouly loose some low end power, but there are many cars on this board that have ample low end, and could use a loss of low end (and subsequent increase in top end HP) to improve their cars short times.
Aaron
Instructor
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Aaron
I was looking at your intake the other day while doing a search, looks great.
Is there much science to the Elbow or is it pretty much straight forward? The intake looks to be a single plane is there any pros or cons to a single or a duell plane, for this type of set up. It sure seems to open up quite a few more options for the EFI on our cars.
Thanks
Joe
I was looking at your intake the other day while doing a search, looks great.
Is there much science to the Elbow or is it pretty much straight forward? The intake looks to be a single plane is there any pros or cons to a single or a duell plane, for this type of set up. It sure seems to open up quite a few more options for the EFI on our cars.
Thanks
Joe
Melting Slicks
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Super victor single plane works for me. Got my best 60" of 1.49 with this setup. I went with the single plane to lose some bottom end, I had a superram, and pick up 1000+rpm on the top end. Turns out the single plane gives me the best of both worlds.
Drifting
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Safety Car
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And to everyone else, thanks for the compliments.
Aaron
