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If you want some inexpensive full synthetic oil, I recommend you go to Wal-mart and grab 5 qts of that Super tech stuff. Its still much better than regular oil. At $3 per quart, that stuff is a smoking deal compared to a lot of brand name oil.
my upcoming C5/Z ain't gettin' synthetic either. not gonna waste my money. i don't give a damn what was run in it before (probably highway robbery amsoil, no doubt the previous owner was one of those ***** owners that kept it in the garage all day, fussed over it and said "nothing is too much for my baby", LOL, just so it could be turned over to me)
sure syn is recommended -- and so big whup, it sure ain't required.
i'll keep my change in my pocket, thank you very much.
how's that for kindergarten 101? there is a point to it though.
Why do you buy Vettes? Just to destroy them? Why not join the Rustang group? You sound like a pick up truck kind of guy. What the hell is a "whup?"
Why do you buy Vettes? Just to destroy them? Why not join the Rustang group? You sound like a pick up truck kind of guy. What the hell is a "whup?"
Originally Posted by Steve20
I agree go slum on the mustang forum
no, my point is that sometimes too many of us buy the notion of "nothing is too much for my baby". this is funny. odd. and ignorant.
for the purposes that most ALL us drive on this forum, getting anything more than some dino oil that's on sale is complete overkill. that goes for C1-C6. if you're not a ding-dong, and change your oil every 5-6,000 miles, there is nothing to imagine or think about.
getting into all the unnecessary ultra-technicalities of it all might make you feel better and fill the boring moments in life, but it's much ado about nothing. alot of this crap don't matter until you're ricky-roy racer at nascar, doing it for his life.
your comment about mustangs and pick-up trucks speaks volumes about your ignorance and sanctimonious attitude. i never bought a corvette to feel superior. obviously you feel that way, that's your problem. you are a faux-owner. you seem to suggest a ford engine gets dino oil, and your precious ancient gen II sbc somehow "deserves" syn oil -- and nothing but syn oil. you're just like the clowns that parrot the all-time classic line, "nothing's too much for my baby". that cracks me up.
Last edited by Red Tornado; Feb 19, 2008 at 03:45 PM.
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Brad, I used to think oil threads got a lot of play because it was something almost everyone could grasp. Now I believe just the opposite. Even the 2 star guys with no profile are piling on now!
sad, how about it. what bothers me is we've got older, senior members who think like 16 year olds with this mustang/truck argument crap. i expect that out of some kid around here.
but hey, i guess it doesn't matter 'cuz we can all retard up to the notion that simply nothing is too much for my baby! (even though it doesn't ever go over 65mph and sits in the garage under a cover for 8 mos. of the year)
no wonder we get laughed at by the masses who call us names like "corvette pussies". that stereotype is often well-deserved.
Last edited by Red Tornado; Feb 19, 2008 at 04:09 PM.
sad, how about it. what bothers me is we've got older, senior members who think like 16 year olds with this mustang/truck argument crap. i expect that out of some kid around here.
but hey, i guess it doesn't matter 'cuz we can all retard up to the notion that simply nothing is too much for my baby! (even though it doesn't ever go over 65mph and sits in the garage under a cover for 8 mos. of the year)
no wonder we get laughed at by the masses who call us names like "corvette pussies". that stereotype is often well-deserved.
Judging from your profile and your posts in this thread alone, I'm going to go ahead and say that you're the one who seems to be 16 years old. Now I'm going to do something productive, and never read this thread again. I can't believe it's still going on. (though I guess I just gave it another 15 minutes of fame )
L98 - use dino. You can use synthetic but if your engine is old, it might find the weak points and leak out. It doesnt cause the leak, it just fits through them because its more slippery than dino.
LT1 - use synthetic.
Oil Weights
0W-30 basically high performance oil.
5W-30 is whats recommended for overall best performance, gas mileage, etc.
L98 - use dino. You can use synthetic but if your engine is old, it might find the weak points and leak out. It doesnt cause the leak, it just fits through them because its more slippery than dino.
LT1 - use synthetic.
Oil Weights
0W-30 basically high performance oil.
5W-30 is whats recommended for overall best performance, gas mileage, etc.
10W-30 will work just fine too if you want.
I think you summed it up the best
Thank you all
Jim
i'd probably add that 10w-30 (in lie of 5w-30) is recommended for higher mileage engines, also in states below "that there" mason-dixon line due to ambient temps
Soooo much misinformation on oils in most forums - Spend some time over at bobistheoilguy.com and you can come away with a better understanding of oils and applications,,, my 2 cents:
In extreme temperatures both hot and cold, or engines know to be sludge monsters, a good group 4 or 5 base synthetic oil has a significant advantage in cold flow properties and high temperature stability. Many syn oils can stand up to a longer drain interval (look at the interval for most euro cars,,, 8-12k miles)
Example: Most turbo charged cars come from the factory with syn and should only run a 100 % synthetic oil. Look at the fiasco with the VW 1.8T engine that did NOT specify synthetic.
On a road course where oil temps can routinely exceed 240-270+ degrees, a robust synthetic oil is mandatory. My LT1 C4 Corvette routinely runs 220 crusing down the highway - I can only imagine temps on a road track - thats why GM specs a synthetic for the LT1 Vette.
In addition, syn oils require less viscosity improvers (which are prone to shearing down). There is a reason why Syn Diesel oils are 5w40 and conventional are 15W40
As far as cost, You can get Syn Oils for $4 a quart or less on sale or every day at wally world. Thats about $2 more than a conventional on sale.
For $10 more an oil change, I believe the benefits outweight the savings.
Moral or the story, use an appropriate oil for your application and make sure the oil is up to operating temperature before beating on the car.
Soooo much misinformation on oils in most forums - Spend some time over at bobistheoilguy.com and you can come away with a better understanding of oils and applications,,, my 2 cents:
In extreme temperatures both hot and cold, or engines know to be sludge monsters, a good group 4 or 5 base synthetic oil has a significant advantage in cold flow properties and high temperature stability. Many syn oils can stand up to a longer drain interval (look at the interval for most euro cars,,, 8-12k miles)
Example: Most turbo charged cars come from the factory with syn and should only run a 100 % synthetic oil. Look at the fiasco with the VW 1.8T engine that did NOT specify synthetic.
On a road course where oil temps can routinely exceed 240-270+ degrees, a robust synthetic oil is mandatory. My LT1 C4 Corvette routinely runs 220 crusing down the highway - I can only imagine temps on a road track - thats why GM specs a synthetic for the LT1 Vette.
In addition, syn oils require less viscosity improvers (which are prone to shearing down). There is a reason why Syn Diesel oils are 5w40 and conventional are 15W40
As far as cost, You can get Syn Oils for $4 a quart or less on sale or every day at wally world. Thats about $2 more than a conventional on sale.
For $10 more an oil change, I believe the benefits outweight the savings.
Moral or the story, use an appropriate oil for your application and make sure the oil is up to operating temperature before beating on the car.
But there are a few here that just won't agree no matter what the facts are. Some people like to argue or just stir the pot.
This is all great (well most all) any one who doesn't change to Syn is just not looking at the facts. If you live in the north the oil flows better on cold start up this can not be a bad thing. If you live in the south were the summer temps on cool days are near 100 you get longer life and better lube. There is a ton of info. out there that shows that if you convert all fliuds to syn you will pick up RWHP dyno proven. If you have been on dino oil and want to change to syn heres a tip do two or three changes at 3000 miles with semi-syn this starts the cleaning process and (yes syn oil does clean the motor) if no leaks move on the full syn my syn of choice is what is on sale in 10w40 year round. I do filter only change at 5000 miles and oil and filter at 10,000 and all of my cars and trucks have way over 100,000 miles on them before I pass them on and they run great with no oil loss. By the way I used to slum around i a 12sec stang with street tires and mufflers sold it someone with more money that brain bought a VETTE and entered heaven some of us have to work up to it.
sad, how about it. what bothers me is we've got older, senior members who think like 16 year olds with this mustang/truck argument crap. i expect that out of some kid around here.
but hey, i guess it doesn't matter 'cuz we can all retard up to the notion that simply nothing is too much for my baby! (even though it doesn't ever go over 65mph and sits in the garage under a cover for 8 mos. of the year)
no wonder we get laughed at by the masses who call us names like "corvette pussies". that stereotype is often well-deserved.
After reading your posts, it makes me wonder if you ever track your cars at all. My C5 and Viper both see alot of track time and you can bet that they will have synthetic oil in them. And most people you see running at the track will have synthetic oil in their cars. In fact, if you want to keep that Z06 you are supposed to get running you will do the same. Go to the road course/racing section and ask about running synthetic versus conventional oil and be prepared to be laughed out of the section. And as for the 65 mph comment, try double that down the straight aways on a regular basis and then come back with your Synthetic/Conventional argument.
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