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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 10:18 PM
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Default Brake line replacement ... Need help, please

I have a 94 coupe, not that it matters on this problem.

I bought a set of Goodridge steel braided brake lines and wanted to get them installed tonight. The driver-side front old hose came off nicely and the new line went on without a hitch. It looks great.

The other three are being a huge pain. The caliper side comes of pretty easily, but the line side fittings are refusing to budge. I have a 12mm line wrench and I have treated the fittings with PB Blaster a couple of times. I push it to the point of rounding the corners of the fitting. They just aren’t braking loose.

Any other tricks or tips would be greatly appreciated.

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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 10:22 PM
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vise grips..lol
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What are you calling a "line wrench"? Is that a flared nut open end wrench? If not, get one.

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What are you calling a "line wrench"? Is that a flared nut open end wrench? If not, get one.

That is what I have. Line wrench = flared nut open wrench. They are still stubborn.
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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 11:05 PM
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When I did mine I found that the previous owner(s) or his mechanic(s) had rounded the corners and I had to use vise grips to get the old lines off.
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You could always heat it up with a torch. I would defintely flush the system afterwards.
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by pr0zac
vise grips..lol
I guess I may have to resort to “vise grip to vise grip” warfare!
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Originally Posted by 92LRC
When I did mine I found that the previous owner(s) or his mechanic(s) had rounded the corners and I had to use vise grips to get the old lines off.
Did you then replace the brakes lines under the car? Or just use vise grips to install the new wheel-side lines?

The Goodridge lines have a lifetime warranty, so I guess all I have to do is get the new ones installed regardless of how ugly the fitting might look afterwards.
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Originally Posted by johnnymo63
You could always heat it up with a torch. I would defintely flush the system afterwards.
You bet. New full synthetic DOT 4 was part of the orginal plan.
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no idea why this works, illogical, does not compute...but taught to me by an ol'timer (even older than me)...and it works "sometimes"

soak with penetrant, wait an hour...then try to TIGHTEN the fitting just the tiniest bit...repeat - just a "tick"...then a bit more penetrant, let sit for an hour, unscrew it.

But --heat to dull red and cool, do it twice...still my fave...(soak an old sock in water, wrap the rubber side fitting/hose...heat only the male threaded part)

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Originally Posted by NC94Vette
Did you then replace the brakes lines under the car? Or just use vise grips to install the new wheel-side lines?

The Goodridge lines have a lifetime warranty, so I guess all I have to do is get the new ones installed regardless of how ugly the fitting might look afterwards.
Kept the hard brake lines intact. There was no need to replace them.

I was able to move only the soft line nut. I kinda wedged the vise grip on the hard line against the car and used the vise grips on the soft line to unscrew. I didn't care if those got smoothed out or stripped since I was replacing them anyway. I didn't strip the hard line.
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Also, not all line wrenches are created equal. Most of them don't have enough meat and they spread apart and round round off the corners, line wrenches are not a tool that you want to cheap out on.
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Originally Posted by MATCHLIGHT
Also, not all line wrenches are created equal. Most of them don't have enough meat and they spread apart and round round off the corners, line wrenches are not a tool that you want to cheap out on.
I agree, I had one that was spreading, I put a big vise grip on the wrench to keep it from spreading, looked like a contraption but it worked.
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If you are going to use vise-grips, use these:



Also... Sears has their Craftsman Pro line wrenches on sale through the Craftsman Club this month. These are the full polish (identical to S*K) NOT the raised panel line wrenches. Highly recommended.
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Originally Posted by pr0zac
vise grips..lol
Funny you should mention that... When I was doing mine last Summer, couple lines wouldn't cooperate. So guess what? Mr. Vice Grips to the rescue. Sometimes you just gotta use the big brute. Nuts' all rounded but it worked.
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Post Script: Well guys, thanks for all of the suggestions and tips. I tried almost all of them. But in the end, I had to resort to brute force and two vice grips. Got them all off and the new ones installed ... which was the main objective, since I never plan on doing it again. Bled the system and took it out for a couple of quick test drives and everything seems good.
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NC94Vette: Let me know how you like the Goodridge steel braid lines as I need to replace the original lines on my 89. I am considering Earl and Goodridge brand lines. Any comments on your lines would be appreciated.
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Originally Posted by Sam Lam
NC94Vette: Let me know how you like the Goodridge steel braid lines as I need to replace the original lines on my 89. I am considering Earl and Goodridge brand lines. Any comments on your lines would be appreciated.
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