View Poll Results: If you were at 430CHP, what would you spend to get to 460CHP, no gaurantees.
$250
2
4.76%
$500
8
19.05%
$750
13
30.95%
None of the above, who gives a crap about the last 30HP
19
45.24%
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430, 455, how much......
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I guess I have paid that much a few times.
It's the "no guarantee" part that would scare me away.
Burning Brakes
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At that power level a $300 newly designed camshaft will get you 20hp or better depending on what you have. $750 for a few hp, come on guys, you are not spec racing where it actually matters and where you are limited on what you can do. I think this may be a case of the, "I would pay that", right up until the point of writing the check....
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From: OBAMA IS HITLER
i agree, 400chp vs. 450chp on the street means nothing. you are paying for usable/practicable returns so diminished the whole extra effort becomes nonsense.
i'd pay $0.00 for the "extra" power.
i'd pay $0.00 for the "extra" power.
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i say who cares.
color me stupid, but if happiness is tied to numbers, ink and paper, then i'm out that door. numbers are for hobbyists and pretend hobbyists. if it doesn't kick you in the butt, then there's no point. you can be in a 400hp car and it can feel slower than a 325hp car. so what's so great about the numbers, they're for chest-slappers and blowhards. objective, subjective, i'll take subjective if objective is slower.
by the way, i never bothered dynoing my car over the past 2 1/2 yrs. i'm not spending $$ on it and absolutely couldn't possibly care less.
color me stupid, but if happiness is tied to numbers, ink and paper, then i'm out that door. numbers are for hobbyists and pretend hobbyists. if it doesn't kick you in the butt, then there's no point. you can be in a 400hp car and it can feel slower than a 325hp car. so what's so great about the numbers, they're for chest-slappers and blowhards. objective, subjective, i'll take subjective if objective is slower.
by the way, i never bothered dynoing my car over the past 2 1/2 yrs. i'm not spending $$ on it and absolutely couldn't possibly care less.
I suspect you want something in the area of feeling fast, but also being fast. If your car felt exactly the same as it does now, i.e. someone could capture the "feel" of fast, but you got passed by every car when leaving a green light, would you really be satisfied?
What kind of guidance did you give your engine builder? I'd think it would be tough to build something for someone who just said "it should feel fast".
To the original poster, maybe for $750 he's gonna pull your heads off and port them?
While I wouldn't spend a dollar on some random guy based on a recommendation from some random body shop, spending $750 for 30hp on a built motor is pretty cheap. How would you add 30hp to your car right now for $750 including the work?
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From: OBAMA IS HITLER
aurora, the builder got zero goals from me, other than a huge box full of new and used parts that i purchased, down to the last gasket, and orders to march. a proven combo, i already know what to expect, there's nothing he could do to improve upon the combo that is -- that is to say, what i handed over.
as for comparing to other cars, i couldn't possibly care less either, i don't drive for them to blow their doors off, i drive for me
i like the C4 body style.....just not the stock engine combo. too slow. mine is more fun than stock. that's all i ever cared about. get rid of that damn slow stock feel, the rest comes along with it. all corvettes should be fast.....too bad a good portion aren't. that's why ya gotta fix 'em.
as for mine, i'll be moving on to a C5/Z in 1-2 years. the power should be close to the same -- i just need a more modern car and get the hell out of the 80's -- the C4 is getting too ancient and the styling is accelerating in age every second, if you know what i mean. i would have enjoyed a decently modded C4 for close to 5 years by then, and that's plenty enough.
as for comparing to other cars, i couldn't possibly care less either, i don't drive for them to blow their doors off, i drive for me
i like the C4 body style.....just not the stock engine combo. too slow. mine is more fun than stock. that's all i ever cared about. get rid of that damn slow stock feel, the rest comes along with it. all corvettes should be fast.....too bad a good portion aren't. that's why ya gotta fix 'em.
as for mine, i'll be moving on to a C5/Z in 1-2 years. the power should be close to the same -- i just need a more modern car and get the hell out of the 80's -- the C4 is getting too ancient and the styling is accelerating in age every second, if you know what i mean. i would have enjoyed a decently modded C4 for close to 5 years by then, and that's plenty enough.
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aurora, the builder got zero goals from me, other than a huge box full of new and used parts that i purchased, down to the last gasket, and orders to march. a proven combo, i already know what to expect, there's nothing he could do to improve upon the combo that is -- that is to say, what i handed over.
as for comparing to other cars, i couldn't possibly care less either, i don't drive for them to blow their doors off, i drive for me
i like the C4 body style.....just not the stock engine combo. too slow. mine is more fun than stock. that's all i ever cared about. get rid of that damn slow stock feel, the rest comes along with it. all corvettes should be fast.....too bad a good portion aren't. that's why ya gotta fix 'em.
as for mine, i'll be moving on to a C5/Z in 1-2 years. the power should be close to the same -- i just need a more modern car and get the hell out of the 80's -- the C4 is getting too ancient and the styling is accelerating in age every second, if you know what i mean. i would have enjoyed a decently modded C4 for close to 5 years by then, and that's plenty enough.
as for comparing to other cars, i couldn't possibly care less either, i don't drive for them to blow their doors off, i drive for me
i like the C4 body style.....just not the stock engine combo. too slow. mine is more fun than stock. that's all i ever cared about. get rid of that damn slow stock feel, the rest comes along with it. all corvettes should be fast.....too bad a good portion aren't. that's why ya gotta fix 'em.
as for mine, i'll be moving on to a C5/Z in 1-2 years. the power should be close to the same -- i just need a more modern car and get the hell out of the 80's -- the C4 is getting too ancient and the styling is accelerating in age every second, if you know what i mean. i would have enjoyed a decently modded C4 for close to 5 years by then, and that's plenty enough.
Bob. Do you know what Brad means?
Brad. Bob drives a ZR1. It's alot better looking then a C5 Z06.
Remember, this is coming from a guy that doesnt like cars, but spends hours everyday on the Corvetteforum.
Last edited by 88BlackZ-51; Mar 9, 2008 at 01:53 PM.
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From: OBAMA IS HITLER
edit: why not answer the OP's question, you never did.
Last edited by Red Tornado; Mar 9, 2008 at 02:10 PM.
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i like the C4 body style.....just not the stock engine combo. too slow. mine is more fun than stock. that's all i ever cared about. get rid of that damn slow stock feel, the rest comes along with it. all corvettes should be fast.....too bad a good portion aren't. that's why ya gotta fix 'em.
If you don't enjoy the style of the C4, by all means jump out of it. Life's too short to drive a car you hate. With the stiffer chassis and more compliant suspension, though, you'd better hope a C5Z doesn't feel slower, if that's what truly matters to you.
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From: OBAMA IS HITLER
aurora, thanks for your thoughts. i'll be fine with some minor tradeoffs. like i said, i do like C4 styling -- just not enough anymore as time passes by and it will get worse, that's just the way i am -- too old, need more modern electronics, looking forward to getting into the LSx world and out of sbc gen-I (or II for that matter) based world. down the road after C5/Z it'll be a C6/Z, and so it goes. i'm no longer into putting out $$ making "old" go fast. lately i've been getting more compliments on the car -- and it does nothing for me. i don't like "old" anymore. i used to think the world of C3's.....my love for them is gone too -- the thought of ancient, carbeurated yesteryear half-rickety suspensions and ancient interiors just turns me off, they belong in a museum or some garage-queened lifestyle.
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If you don't like "old" why are you going to buy an old C5ZO6? It kind of sounds like you are into these cars for the looks and satisfaction of driving a "fast" "exclusive" car. Maybe I'm wrong, but you seem to be moving into the next gen once the one you are in looses its "oh wow" appeal. If that's the way you are it's all good; just don't fight with the guys on this forum that CHOOSE to drive and work on a C4 or C3. I always laugh when I'm out driving my "old" C3 that has a HOK candied paint job and about 650bhp, and a C5/6Z driver stares at my old car all the way by.....
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