View Poll Results: If you were at 430CHP, what would you spend to get to 460CHP, no gaurantees.
$250
2
4.76%
$500
8
19.05%
$750
13
30.95%
None of the above, who gives a crap about the last 30HP
19
45.24%
Voters: 42. You may not vote on this poll
430, 455, how much......
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430, 455, how much......
So, my DD got rear ended and is in the body shop. I am driving a G6 rental, which is actually a nice car, to my surprise. Not fancy or anything, just "nice".
Anyway, I spoke to Lingenfelter and Accel when I was installing the Super Ram and doing research. The engineers at both companies tell me I should be at about 430 CHP with my setup, maybe slightly better.
Anyway, I'm talking to the bodyshop guy about painting my rocker panels, as they have chips in them
He starts telling me that his friend can squeeze another 20-30 HP out of the car. His "supertunes" are about $750.
For him to swing his magic. He was the shop go-fer. Surprised?
I have no idea what this guy would do, and don't really give a crap. I ain't payin $700 for the last 30HP. And that 30 HP isn't even guaranteed it's BEST CASE!!!!
I have to ask, how is this guy in business?
So here it is, what would YOU pay for an extra 25HP if your motor was already at 430.....
Anyway, I spoke to Lingenfelter and Accel when I was installing the Super Ram and doing research. The engineers at both companies tell me I should be at about 430 CHP with my setup, maybe slightly better.
Anyway, I'm talking to the bodyshop guy about painting my rocker panels, as they have chips in them
He starts telling me that his friend can squeeze another 20-30 HP out of the car. His "supertunes" are about $750.
For him to swing his magic. He was the shop go-fer. Surprised?I have no idea what this guy would do, and don't really give a crap. I ain't payin $700 for the last 30HP. And that 30 HP isn't even guaranteed it's BEST CASE!!!!
I have to ask, how is this guy in business?
So here it is, what would YOU pay for an extra 25HP if your motor was already at 430.....
Last edited by jsup; Mar 7, 2008 at 08:27 PM.
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It was some "special magic"
the guy knew how to work some magic adjustments. The guy was FOS, but it did get me thinking, how many suckers did he get at $750 a shot....
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if you get 425 chp w/a good tune you're doing real good. The only way to get more through ECM tuning only, would be leaning the **** out of it at WOT. I doubt even going past 13.5 would yield 20hp, I would guess 5-10, although I wouldn't do that.
Last edited by mseven; Mar 7, 2008 at 09:57 PM.
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From: Bergen County, NJ Democrats, doing for the country what they did for Michigan
Another thought......if it is a tune, and I already have a pretty decent tune, I run the risk of actually LOSING power.
I'm really interested in the poll results. I'd like to see how many people would actually buy this. It's kinda an experiment in sociology for me.
Last edited by jsup; Mar 7, 2008 at 10:12 PM.
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So, my DD got rear ended and is in the body shop. I am driving a G6 rental, which is actually a nice car, to my surprise. Not fancy or anything, just "nice".
Anyway, I spoke to Lingenfelter and Accel when I was installing the Super Ram and doing research. The engineers at both companies tell me I should be at about 430 CHP with my setup, maybe slightly better.
Anyway, I'm talking to the bodyshop guy about painting my rocker panels, as they have chips in them
He starts telling me that his friend can squeeze another 20-30 HP out of the car. His "supertunes" are about $750. For him to swing his magic. He was the shop go-fer. Surprised?
I have no idea what this guy would do, and don't really give a crap. I ain't payin $700 for the last 30HP. And that 30 HP isn't even guaranteed it's BEST CASE!!!!
I have to ask, how is this guy in business?
So here it is, what would YOU pay for an extra 25HP if your motor was already at 430.....
Anyway, I spoke to Lingenfelter and Accel when I was installing the Super Ram and doing research. The engineers at both companies tell me I should be at about 430 CHP with my setup, maybe slightly better.
Anyway, I'm talking to the bodyshop guy about painting my rocker panels, as they have chips in them
He starts telling me that his friend can squeeze another 20-30 HP out of the car. His "supertunes" are about $750.
For him to swing his magic. He was the shop go-fer. Surprised?I have no idea what this guy would do, and don't really give a crap. I ain't payin $700 for the last 30HP. And that 30 HP isn't even guaranteed it's BEST CASE!!!!
I have to ask, how is this guy in business?
So here it is, what would YOU pay for an extra 25HP if your motor was already at 430.....
How is he in business? Well meaning people like you!!
Last edited by RandyJ75; Mar 7, 2008 at 10:45 PM.
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With no guarantees, I wouldn't pay for it. If it was a sure thing, I would pay $750 for it. Maybe you could do some math and work a deal with the guy? $750 for 30 HP works out to $25 per HP. Have him dyno the car, tune it, and dyno it again. For every HP gained you pay the guy $25. For every HP lost, he pays you $25.
I picked up about 30 RWHP and 50 RWTQ when I dyno tuned my car. I think that's pretty extreme though, and probably not the norm, especially on a car that is already tuned.
I picked up about 30 RWHP and 50 RWTQ when I dyno tuned my car. I think that's pretty extreme though, and probably not the norm, especially on a car that is already tuned.
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with no guarantees, i probly wouldnt spend much more than 500, but it depends on the mods.
Like say i wanted that 30hp more, but my setup is tuned so thats not an option. Say my setup currently had some mismatched parts and such tho. SO i hear a custom cam may bring in more hp over my off the shelf grind. So I spend 350 on a new custom grind camshaft designed for my motor over my current cam that has been working well. Then another 150 for valvetrain upgrades. Its not a guarantee that it will make more power than the cam i have, but you cant tell unless you go for it. If it does, then its totally worth it. its worth it if its only 10hp. ANY gain at those hp levels helps and is gonna cost more money to get additional gains
Like say i wanted that 30hp more, but my setup is tuned so thats not an option. Say my setup currently had some mismatched parts and such tho. SO i hear a custom cam may bring in more hp over my off the shelf grind. So I spend 350 on a new custom grind camshaft designed for my motor over my current cam that has been working well. Then another 150 for valvetrain upgrades. Its not a guarantee that it will make more power than the cam i have, but you cant tell unless you go for it. If it does, then its totally worth it. its worth it if its only 10hp. ANY gain at those hp levels helps and is gonna cost more money to get additional gains
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I agree with Neat, offer to pay him for results on a per hp base or per every 5 hp.
I wouldn't go the gamble route.
Actually even $25 per hp sounds like a lot of money even if it were guaranteed.
that's $100 for 4 hp. Ouch!!
I wouldn't go the gamble route.
Actually even $25 per hp sounds like a lot of money even if it were guaranteed.
that's $100 for 4 hp. Ouch!!
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I am really surprised by how many people would bay $500-750 for the last 30, if you're lucky.
Perhaps it's me who is out of step...
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I will dyno run it, not for bragging rights, but just because I am curious.
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