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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 10:31 PM
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my 86 is getting a 383 stroker built but the 8 inch external balancer is gonna hit the cross member i think. there are probly several solutions as to this.. ideas anyone?
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 10:36 PM
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Remove the 8" and install a 6"? Heat up the cross member and beat the **** out of it until it fits?

Thats all I got.
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 10:41 PM
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thought about beating it but then figured theres got to be some other better out there. may beat it yet though..lol. 6 ichis same as original l98 350 and internal balance and would clear but cant use it cause the 383 is external balance and needs a like balancer.
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 10:49 PM
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there is a 7 incher from jegs i hope will clear cause thats what i plan on going with.. any 383r's out there know for sure? ive been trying to figure this out all day. reaaly!!
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 86vettral
thought about beating it but then figured theres got to be some other better out there. may beat it yet though..lol. 6 ichis same as original l98 350 and internal balance and would clear but cant use it cause the 383 is external balance and needs a like balancer.

The L98 in your car and mine is externally balanced. I'm sure others will chime in, but I am pretty sure you can use a 6" balancer on the front of a GM crate 383.
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 11:03 PM
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not what i heard about the internal vs external balance of our l98s. food for thought though. thx man
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Pioneer, and there are other ones out there that make a small external balance damper. Around 6 1/4"- 6 1/2". I don't remember the exact size. But I have used one on a 383 super ram motor I did that was external balanced in a 87 Vette, and it cleared the crossmember fine without beating on it
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 11:09 PM
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pioneer huh? great to know i'll look into that now as it sounds like the right thing. thx
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By the way... our L98's and all 1 piece rear seal small blocks including LTx motors are balanced like this from the factory: the front half is internal balanced, and the rear half is external balanced.
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so will my original balancer work on this 383 external balanced motor? i dont want too shake, rattle and roll on this one thats fer sure>>
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help!
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Originally Posted by 86vettral
so will my original balancer work on this 383 external balanced motor?
Yes but I would like the security of new balancer; stock or aftermarket.
Stock ones have a habit of coming apart with mileage
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Old Mar 13, 2008 | 06:25 AM
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My 383 used a 8"er, flattened out the crossmember with no ill effects. Clears fine now.
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The smaller External balancer is 6.75" one of them anyway and the only one I could find (reasonable anyway $60.00) is from Professional Products, Jegs, Speedway, Northern and Probably Summit sell it, the part number is 8001.

The L98 are not externally balanced. The one piece crankshafts have a balance weight on the Flywheel/Flexplate only, this is because the original 350 crankshaft had an offset on the crank at the flywheel this was removed when they made the rear end of the crank round to slide through the one piece seal, rather than re-invent the wheel they put a small piece of weight on the Flywheel/Flexplate only to make up for the loss of the small offset. The L98 is not externally Balanced.

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Originally Posted by mgbss
The smaller External balancer is 6.75" one of them anyway and the only one I could find (reasonable anyway $60.00) is from Professional Products, Jegs, Speedway, Northern and Probably Summit sell it, the part number is 8001.

The L98 are not externally balanced. The one piece crankshafts have a balance weight on the Flywheel/Flexplate only, this is because the original 350 crankshaft had an offset on the crank at the flywheel this was removed when they made the rear end of the crank round to slide through the one piece seal, rather than re-invent the wheel they put a small piece of weight on the Flywheel/Flexplate only to make up for the loss of the small offset. The L98 is not externally Balanced.

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thaks man ,this is the info i was looking for!
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Originally Posted by mgbss
The L98 are not externally balanced. The one piece crankshafts have a balance weight on the Flywheel/Flexplate only, this is because the original 350 crankshaft had an offset on the crank at the flywheel this was removed when they made the rear end of the crank round to slide through the one piece seal, rather than re-invent the wheel they put a small piece of weight on the Flywheel/Flexplate only to make up for the loss of the small offset. The L98 is not externally Balanced.

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I have never heard of a flywheel/flexplate with a weight on it to be considered a internal balance engine. If your adding weight beyond the crankshaft, its external balanced. Without a weight on the damper or flywheel/flexplate it's neutral or internal balance. And every internal balance engine that I have built that had a weight on the flywheel/flexplate ,has been removed for balancing. And every external balance engine I have built has had weight added to the flywheel/flexplate and or damper
I guess if you consider a flywheel with a weight on it to be internal balance, that's a new one on me.

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mgbss, how is that professional products balancer working out for you?
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Your original L98 is an externally balanced engine. Its different from a 400 which uses a weight on the damper. The L98 motor with the 1 pc seal has a neutral balanced damper up front and the flywheel has a weight on one side. Hence, externally balanced.
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I'm running a 7.5 on my LT4, there is still room between it and the cross member. Could you not shim the front motor mounts to rais the front end up a touch?

Just a thought!

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Originally Posted by j-stingray
thaks man ,this is the info i was looking for!
i agree this is the the best solution-smallest out there and best price..Proformance
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