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The shipping receipt on the D44 I purchased says 285 LBS. I am not sure if that includes the pallet but imagine it does. The rear suspension was complete from rotor to rotor and there was a support beam included.
A few years ago I modified a C1 frame to accept a C4 suspension. I was curious as to the weight savings with the new suspension and I weighed a complete '92 rear suspension. It weighed 252 lbs (no wheels).
Charles
A few years ago I modified a C1 frame to accept a C4 suspension. I was curious as to the weight savings with the new suspension and I weighed a complete '92 rear suspension. It weighed 252 lbs (no wheels).
Charles
wanted to see how much weight i saved going to an axle
Yeah I figured, was just pulling your chain a little.
cuz' I'm curious as well. Wish I had weighed mine when I took it out. I know it's heavy as hell!!!!!!!! Even with 2 guys on either end it's a heavy *****'
Yeah I figured, was just pulling your chain a little.
cuz' I'm curious as well. Wish I had weighed mine when I took it out. I know it's heavy as hell!!!!!!!! Even with 2 guys on either end it's a heavy *****'
Doesn't matter in your case... you've got enough tubing that probably weighs as much as a Honda back there alone WITHOUT the rearend! (just pullin' yer chain btw.... it's all good)
Doesn't matter in your case... you've got enough tubing that probably weighs as much as a Honda back there alone WITHOUT the rearend! (just pullin' yer chain btw.... it's all good)
LOL, you WOULD think that. But I was amazed at how light the chromoly tubing is, if the whole cage was out of the car you could probably pick it up with one hand. I picked up about a 15 foot bar of it and it was a featherweight.
But the way he builds these rearends they are heavy duty!!!!!
Does your 100# savings include all mounting brackets, locating rods, springs, shocks, brake rotors, calipers?
What solid axle are you using?
Just curious because I am building another car that has C4 suspension and I've been thinking about a solid axle for it.
Wow, that is quite a bit. Certainly NOT disputing your claim, but have to wonder how it is possible. I would expect a steel solid axle housing and axles to outweigh the aluminum pumpkin, batwing and half shafts and the coil springs to outweigh the monospring. Calipers and rotors would be a "wash", control links should be too except for the toe and camber rods which are pretty light, interesting.
well I can believe it because we just installed on in a guys car and removed the IRS. I can grab the complete moser 12bolt and move it around fairly easily by myself (lifting it etc) and with the IRS complete it takes two guys to lift it into a truck. Those suckers are HEAVY. Also with the IRS there is a lot more MASS there , which I am sure contributes.
I do not have a large enough scale to weight them both however, but my guess is the solid rear is lighter.
well I can believe it because we just installed on in a guys car and removed the IRS. I can grab the complete moser 12bolt and move it around fairly easily by myself (lifting it etc) and with the IRS complete it takes two guys to lift it into a truck. Those suckers are HEAVY. Also with the IRS there is a lot more MASS there , which I am sure contributes.
I do not have a large enough scale to weight them both however, but my guess is the solid rear is lighter.
I'll take your word for it, but would not have guessed the difference to be that great (100lbs.) I do understand the complete IRS is a pain to move around single handed, but expect that has more to do with the awkwardness of the assembly than the weight, you lost me on the "mass" concept unless that is what you meant?
Again I did not actually weigh it, but just moving the two around the 12bolts seem to be lighter. Remember the hubs and stuff on the D44 are HUGE compared to the 12bolt that just has a simple 1/4" flange....not to mention the 1/2 shafts, 4 more ujoints, control arms brackets for them, and I am sure many other things.
At the end of the day the real advantage is in efficiency and strength gains with the 12bolt. Even if it weighted 100lb more, you would still be way ahead of the game in performance and reliability. My car went a solid .25 sec quicker with the install of the solid rear. And that was with the big wheelstands which were gobbling up ET. There is no comparison between the two systems.
My rear-end has gun drilled axles, aluminum spool and yoke, pro gear and mostly chrome molly. also the fact that its narrowed makes everything like the axles and housing lighter. I was able to pick my housing right off the ground with no problem what so ever. Ill have the for sure weight saving for you guys this weekend …. Thanks
My rear-end has gun drilled axles, aluminum spool and yoke, pro gear and mostly chrome molly. also the fact that its narrowed makes everything like the axles and housing lighter. I was able to pick my housing right off the ground with no problem what so ever. Ill have the for sure weight saving for you guys this weekend …. Thanks
Okay, thanks for the explanation, that makes sense. Look forward to hearing what the difference is once you weight it.
Removing the IRS and replacing it with a straight axle could contribute to some weight savings. I hope I can get it down to less than 2700 lbs one day.
My rear-end has gun drilled axles, aluminum spool and yoke, pro gear and mostly chrome molly. also the fact that its narrowed makes everything like the axles and housing lighter. I was able to pick my housing right off the ground with no problem what so ever. Ill have the for sure weight saving for you guys this weekend …. Thanks
You want your old rear back
Try Dennys half shafts which are 12 lbs more than the rear I bought off you.
I think that weight back their is the only thing keeping it on the ground.