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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jsup
I'm gonna try taking off the top of the SR plenum and sticking a magnet down the runner holes to see if anything comes out......before I take it all apart.
That would be a waste of time, unless you will be in the process of tearing it down. If something were on top of a valve, it would either drop into the cylinder when the valve opened, or it would jam between the valve and the seat causing a massive miss. If there is something in the cylinder, you won't reach it with a magnet. If something you dropped didn't get into a cylinder, it wouldn't be causing that noise. Simple logic.

I have heard a similar noise before, but I can't put my finger on it. Is there a spark plug out or loose? Is the header leaking where you have removed the A/C compressor mounting brace, or anywhere else?

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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 09:12 PM
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That would be a waste of time, unless you will be in the process of tearing it down. If something were on top of a valve, it would either drop into the cylinder when the valve opened, or it would jam between the valve and the seat causing a massive miss. If there is something in the cylinder, you won't reach it with a magnet. If something you dropped didn't get into a cylinder, it wouldn't be causing that noise. Simple logic.

I have heard a similar noise before, but I can't put my finger on it. Is there a spark plug out or loose? Is the header leaking where you have removed the A/C compressor mounting brace, or anywhere else?

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Thanks man. I will check that on Sat., I'm slammed the next couple days. Keep listening to it, maybe it will jar your memory.

Anything but a nut or something down the hole!!!! Thanks for the encouragement.

I was thinking, and remember, I'm not in a clear state of mind, that the nuts I used to secure the SR were too big to drop past the valve and got caught on the top of the valve and may be getting smacked around the top of the valve, in the head.

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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 09:19 PM
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Its not something in the cylinder, has a mechanical sound as if its keeping rythym. Valvetrain somewhere. Let it run longer and see if oil comes out...Do it anyway.

Edit: Kind of like a lifter that isnt pumping up.
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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
Its not something in the cylinder, has a mechanical sound as if its keeping rythym. Valvetrain somewhere. Let it run longer and see if oil comes out...Do it anyway.

Edit: Kind of like a lifter that isnt pumping up.
The oil pumps up fine, I'm afraid to let it run up. Lifter, however, interesting call. That does sound somewhat reasonable...I put in new lifters to avoid such a problem..

Any way to test that?

Watch the rockers, they all move full throw.......if the lifter was bad, why would they move?

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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jsup
The oil pumps up fine, I'm afraid to let it run up. Lifter, however, interesting call. That does sound somewhat reasonable...I put in new lifters to avoid such a problem..

Any way to test that?

Watch the rockers, they all move full throw.......if the lifter was bad, why would they move?
If it was a lifter, you'd have loose rockers..

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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by anesthes
If it was a lifter, you'd have loose rockers..

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Right, and they wouldn't rock....no loose rockers. I'd give my left nut for a loose rocker right now....

All my common sense is out the window right now....I'm just too dam close to it...I have to drive seven hours tomorrow, lots of time to think.
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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 09:27 PM
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The frequency of the noise appears to correspond with the movement of the rocker arms.
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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 09:29 PM
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Id bet the farm you either have a lifter issue or no oil pressure at all.
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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 09:29 PM
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That sounds mechanical, it also sounds like a lifter. I agree check the rockers. I had a flywheel bolt back out one time and that was much louder and less fast in speed.
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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by KEG64
The frequency of the noise appears to correspond with the movement of the rocker arms.
I have heard valve clatter before, this is MUCH MUCH louder.
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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 09:30 PM
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when you yanked the 22's did you check to see if all the pintle caps were accounted for? some are plastic some are not
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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Aardwolf
That sounds mechanical, it also sounds like a lifter. I agree check the rockers. I had a flywheel bolt back out one time and that was much louder and less fast in speed.
All rockers are tight.
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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by _twisted_
when you yanked the 22's did you check to see if all the pintle caps were accounted for? some are plastic some are not
If by pintle caps you mean the blue plastic things for shipping, then yes...if they are part of the injector, then no.
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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by KEG64
The frequency of the noise appears to correspond with the movement of the rocker arms.
Something in the valvetrain isn't right. How long have you run the engine so far? Reason I ask, is in my book, there should still be some visible oil on the heads. Even if it has been a few days.
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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 09:54 PM
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Something in the valvetrain isn't right. How long have you run the engine so far? Reason I ask, is in my book, there should still be some visible oil on the heads. Even if it has been a few days.
there is some oil in the heads, it's all pooled on the bottom.

The car sat for two weeks, then I started it and got this noise. I only started and ran it for short bursts like that after hearing the noise.
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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 09:58 PM
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And when you pulled the intake, to do the injectors, you left the heads alone, right?
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it does sound dry - is your oil pressure good?

Is the distributor seated all the way?
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Originally Posted by anesthes
Too fast and too high pitch to be a rod knock. Somthing is hitting something.
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I agree. It doesn't sound like rod knock to me either.
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Originally Posted by _twisted_
it does sound dry - is your oil pressure good?
Thats what I thought too. I changed the oil in mine yesterday, and it sounded somewhat like that for the first few seconds until pressure built up.
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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by _twisted_
it does sound dry - is your oil pressure good?

Is the distributor seated all the way?
Yes and yes. The OP goes up to about 80 and drops. Guage is working.

I'm using Mobil1 20-50. 15K oil.

Should I drain and re-fill?

This is really loud. You think I'm just not letting it run long enough? I'm afraid to do that.
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