C4 Tech/Performance L98 Corvette and LT1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine

Battery will not hold a charge

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 12, 2008 | 11:00 PM
  #1  
doctorstork's Avatar
doctorstork
Thread Starter
Intermediate
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Default Battery will not hold a charge

Brand new battery will not hold a charge. Is it the alternator
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2008 | 11:15 PM
  #2  
Aggravated4life's Avatar
Aggravated4life
Race Director
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 14,130
Likes: 7
Cruise-In II Veteran
Default

Could be the alt. or a draw in current somewhere.Charge the battery off the car and see what it does and go from there.
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2008 | 11:16 PM
  #3  
65Z01's Avatar
65Z01
Team Owner
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 90,675
Likes: 304
From: SE NY
Cruise-In II Veteran
Default

Look at the voltage reading after startup; it should jump into the 14+Vdc range and settle back to mid 13+Vdc range after charged.

If this happens then something is likely discharging the battery after the engine is shut off.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2008 | 01:01 AM
  #4  
jfb's Avatar
jfb
Team Owner
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 54,124
Likes: 30
From: Cincinnati, Oh USA
Default

More likely you have excessive leakage current (battery current with ign off). At night check for underhood lights, vanity mirror lights, door map lights, center console light, Do you have a radar detector, CB, aftermarket alarm, aftermarket radio or audio amplifier, GPS, check em. Remove the negative battery terminal and connect an ammeter from the cable to the neg battery terminal and after the courtesy lights time out, switch your ammeter down to lower scales and measure the current. GM says leakage current should not exceed 50 milliamps, my 87 draws 27 ma. If you do have high leakage, pull the courtesy fuse, then watch the ammeter while you pull fuses one at time to see if you have a sudden drop in leakage. Further investigation of that circuit will then be required. Also, when you ask for help, state what year C4 you have, they are not all alike. Be sure to recharge your battery with a charger overnight or for a full day, batteries left discharged become door stops.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2008 | 10:23 AM
  #5  
c4cruiser's Avatar
c4cruiser
Team Owner
20 Year Member
Veteran: Army
 
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 34,873
Likes: 487
From: Lacey WA RVN 68-69
NCM Sinkhole Donor
Default

Did you have the battery load tested? Take it to a reputable shop and have the test done, they will charge the battery and test it. It will be easy to tell if the battery is good or not.

What is the battery voltage with the negative cable removed? If voltage is around 12.1 or less, the battery is probably toast.

Even if the voltage display on the dash shows 14v or so with the motor running, the battery could still not be taking a charge. 13.8v to 14.5v or so indicates that the alternator is producing a sufficient amount of power but if the battery is not being charged from alternator output, the alternator can eventually be ruined.

Checking for a current draw will have to be done if the battery checks out as good and the alternator is generating the proper voltage range.

You do need to post the year of the car too.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2008 | 10:38 AM
  #6  
jfb's Avatar
jfb
Team Owner
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 54,124
Likes: 30
From: Cincinnati, Oh USA
Default

Partial Quote from C4cruiser"
if the battery is not being charged from alternator output, the alternator can eventually be ruined.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++

That is completely false! If the alternator is not supplying current to the battery, then the only current the alternator is supplying is that to the car which it does normally. Normal alternator current won't ruin an alternator!
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2008 | 10:40 AM
  #7  
Iroc57's Avatar
Iroc57
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 2,171
Likes: 1
From: Warwick RI
Default

Originally Posted by doctorstork
Brand new battery will not hold a charge. Is it the alternator
When you say will not hold a charge do you mean once the car sits overnight it will not crank or when you stop to gas up it won't restart?
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2008 | 11:13 AM
  #8  
Can86Z51's Avatar
Can86Z51
Instructor
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 222
Likes: 0
From: Toronto(Don Mills) Ontario
Default

Originally Posted by Iroc57
When you say will not hold a charge do you mean once the car sits overnight it will not crank or when you stop to gas up it won't restart?
Sounds like what happened to me, last year, when a 2 year old Delco died on me - would not hold enough of a charge to re-start the Vette, even after a boost, then re-charge. Turned out to be a dead/shorted cell! Battery was toast!
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Apr 13, 2008 | 04:53 PM
  #9  
JonnyAngle's Avatar
JonnyAngle
Racer
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 367
Likes: 1
From: Shakopee Minnesota
Default

On my car, the bolt that attaches the battery cable to the side post was stripped. Check that out too.
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2008 | 12:02 AM
  #10  
86PACER's Avatar
86PACER
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,858
Likes: 7
From: Santa Maria CA
Default

Originally Posted by 65Z01
Look at the voltage reading after startup; it should jump into the 14+Vdc range and settle back to mid 13+Vdc range after charged.

If this happens then something is likely discharging the battery after the engine is shut off.
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2008 | 07:40 AM
  #11  
pcolt94's Avatar
pcolt94
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 5,621
Likes: 206
From: Orlando FL
Default

Originally Posted by Iroc57
When you say will not hold a charge do you mean once the car sits overnight it will not crank or when you stop to gas up it won't restart?
This is what ran thru my mind also, what is the time frame. Also, is it a brand new battery like you got it last week and why did you initially change it.

Originally Posted by jfb
More likely you have excessive leakage current (battery current with ign off). At night check for underhood lights, vanity mirror lights, door map lights, center console light, Do you have a radar detector, CB, aftermarket alarm, aftermarket radio or audio amplifier, GPS, check em. Remove the negative battery terminal and connect an ammeter from the cable to the neg battery terminal and after the courtesy lights time out, switch your ammeter down to lower scales and measure the current. GM says leakage current should not exceed 50 milliamps, my 87 draws 27 ma. If you do have high leakage, pull the courtesy fuse, then watch the ammeter while you pull fuses one at time to see if you have a sudden drop in leakage. Further investigation of that circuit will then be required. Also, when you ask for help, state what year C4 you have, they are not all alike. Be sure to recharge your battery with a charger overnight or for a full day, batteries left discharged become door stops.
Good piece of information along with the others. My 94 draws about 29-30 ma and can sit for weeks with no problem. If you measure about 14 volts when its running its probably charging. If it won’t hold charge for a day, then there’s a current draw or new battery is bad perhaps.
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2008 | 07:53 AM
  #12  
jsup's Avatar
jsup
Team Owner
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 35,065
Likes: 0
From: Bergen County, NJ Democrats, doing for the country what they did for Michigan
Default

Get a 12V test light. Take off one of the battery cables. Put the test light in line between the battery and the loose cable.

If the light goes on, you have a draw killing your battery.
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2008 | 08:06 AM
  #13  
ski_dwn_it's Avatar
0ski_dwn_it
Former Vendor
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 7,204
Likes: 6
From: St Marys PA
Default

Unplug both power seats. I fought this problem for about 5 years, and one day while in the car working on it I heard a little sound that turned out to be the power seats trying to move. Even if you just sat there very still, car off, they would try to move a little then stop. I unplugged it and never had a problem since. Car sat all winter and started it this spring with no problem!

There is a process you can go thru to identify the circuit that is causing the problem. But if you get lucky you can try the seat plugs...I have heard they are prone to this problem...even in newer cars today.
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2008 | 10:21 AM
  #14  
Demonic85's Avatar
Demonic85
Team Owner
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 24,460
Likes: 7
From: sw Ohio
Default

The voltage will get weaker as you drive and will eventually shut the car off it were the alternator. On a brand new battery I would suspect a draw. Check your headlights for draw as well. Interior lights are a pretty common draw as is the radio.
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 01:13 PM
  #15  
doctorstork's Avatar
doctorstork
Thread Starter
Intermediate
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Default

1991 standard coupe...thanx for detailed response...I appreciate your help and the help of everyone who responded so quickly
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 01:16 PM
  #16  
doctorstork's Avatar
doctorstork
Thread Starter
Intermediate
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Default

it did drop suddenly with driving and died 400 yards from home.
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 10:01 PM
  #17  
RandyJ75's Avatar
RandyJ75
Safety Car
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,566
Likes: 4
From: Mt Laurel NJ
St. Jude Donor '06-'07
Default

Originally Posted by doctorstork
it did drop suddenly with driving and died 400 yards from home.

If it died like that it is the alternator. When the car is running, what does the gauge say? I'll bet it is only charging at about 6 volts. That happen to me the first day I owned my current vette. A new alternator will fix you right up, don't forget to charge the battery w/ one of the cables disconnected from the battery. The ECM does not like battery chargers.

Randy
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Battery will not hold a charge

Old Apr 15, 2008 | 11:48 PM
  #18  
jfb's Avatar
jfb
Team Owner
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 54,124
Likes: 30
From: Cincinnati, Oh USA
Default

If your alternator is not charging the battery the red battery symbol light on the dash will be lit. Also, your voltmeter will read below 13 volts. Normal operation is for the voltmeter to read 14.3 volts engine cold and this will drop as the alternator warms up until it reaches 13.3 volts. The dash voltmeter reads in error and low with the engine not running.
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2008 | 08:00 AM
  #19  
Iroc57's Avatar
Iroc57
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 2,171
Likes: 1
From: Warwick RI
Default

Originally Posted by RandyJ75
If it died like that it is the alternator. When the car is running, what does the gauge say? I'll bet it is only charging at about 6 volts. That happen to me the first day I owned my current vette. A new alternator will fix you right up, don't forget to charge the battery w/ one of the cables disconnected from the battery. The ECM does not like battery chargers.

Randy

It is a simple swap
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2008 | 03:11 PM
  #20  
jfb's Avatar
jfb
Team Owner
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 54,124
Likes: 30
From: Cincinnati, Oh USA
Default

Partial Quote from RandyJ75:
don't forget to charge the battery w/ one of the cables disconnected from the battery. The ECM does not like battery chargers.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++

You do not have to remove a battery cable to charge your battery. Your alternator does the exact same thing to your battery that a battery charger does and it doesn't harm your ECM.
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:13 PM.

story-0
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-8
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE