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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 10:50 AM
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After some spirited shifting on a couple 1/4 mile runs, my 86 4+3 clutch is now acting peculiar. When depressing the clutch pedal, it hangs up about 1/2 way, and is very difficult to depress the last 1/2. Advice?
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 12:04 PM
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Could be the throw out bearing, bent or misaligned slave cylinder pushrod. If it was a low fluid issue, the pedal would offer no resistance.
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 04:09 PM
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Nothing in the FSM regarding this symptom. I guess I'll start at the pedal and work toward the clutch to find the source of the binding. Hopefully I'll find it before I reach the clutch.
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 04:14 PM
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I had the same issue...ended up being the slave cylinder. Rebuilt the slave, and it runs fine.
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 10:15 AM
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Could I have toasted the slave cyl after jsut a few hard shifts?
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by geezel
Could I have toasted the slave cyl after jsut a few hard shifts?
If it was brand spanking new? Probably not. If it's been on the car for a while? Yes. It could also be the clutch fork. You could try removing the rubber boot that covers the slave cylinder rod, remove the rod and try the clutch pedal then. (have someone under the car to push the piston back into the slave) If it feels right then you probably have a clutch, clutchfork issue more then likely.
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 06:42 PM
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Thanks for the advice.
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 07:02 PM
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I had a similar problem. Went out to drive the car one morning and couldn't get the clutch to release. You could push the pedal down and it would stop about half way. Not a solid stop but it felt like it had air in the system. Had a friend push on the clutch pedal while I looked at the slave cylinder and saw no movement at all on the clutch fork. Had him push real hard and watched as the rubber section of the line would swell and try to twist itself into a spring. A new line assembly fixed it for me. Cutting open the bad line showed the whole rubber section was deteriorated internally and had totally collapsed next to the crimp connection on the slave end of the line.
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 10:50 PM
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It looks like the problem is at the clutch pedal / master cylinder push rod. The push rod has slipped to the very end of the shaft where it connects to the clutch pedal, causing it to enter the master cyl at an angle when the pedal is depressed. I believe this may have occured due to the side to side "slop" in my clutch pedal.

Can the bushings at the pedal pivot bolt be replaced, or is the side to side movement normal? Are the parts available? Is the only access to perform this work from under the dash? That's going to be way tough... What type of clip holds the MC push rod onto the pedal?

Any help / tips would be appreciated.
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 09:06 PM
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I just went through this exercise on a 'project vette' I bought where the last person couldn't get the clutch working (story for another time). This problem was about 1 of 4 I had to fix.

The clip had fallen off the pin for the master cylinder rod who knows how many miles/years ago and the pin was a basket case, worn more than half way through.
I was told that you can just buy the 'pin' from GM. I didn't know that at the time and fabricated up one out of a grade 5 bolt and a little welding.

I'll try to post a picture later (they are pending approval).
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/phot.../IMG_0663a.jpg
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 11:23 PM
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I've since found you can buy the 3 bushings for the pedal pivot bolt, but not the keeper that holds the MC pushrod on the shaft. I'm sure I can make something work.
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Originally Posted by geezel1
I've since found you can buy the 3 bushings for the pedal pivot bolt, but not the keeper that holds the MC pushrod on the shaft. I'm sure I can make something work.
I bought one for my '90 last year, in fact I bought two, in case I "lost" one. They look just like the clips that hold the cruse control cable to the throttle body. Try to buy one for a '90, I have to believe they are the same.

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I can believe that. It looks like there is a groove at the end of the shaft to accept that type of retaining clip.
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