How To Disconect The Odometer ??
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Instructor
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From: Los Angeles ca
How To Disconect The Odometer ??
I know it's illegal and all but, I was just wondering how easy it is for a c4 owner to have a really nice car with low miles drive it all around as a daily driver and still maintain the low miles.
I took a look at a 96 lt4 today with an amazing 5000 miles on it. but the tires looked like they had 20k + miles on them and the oil was pretty dark and the owner said he changed the oil 1k miles ago.
so I was just wondering is it possible and how difficult would it be to do it?
I took a look at a 96 lt4 today with an amazing 5000 miles on it. but the tires looked like they had 20k + miles on them and the oil was pretty dark and the owner said he changed the oil 1k miles ago.
so I was just wondering is it possible and how difficult would it be to do it?
Le Mans Master
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From: Myrtle Beach SC
St. Jude Donor '05-'06
I do know the ccm holds the mileage. It is possible to put a different ccm in without putting the correct mileage in it. Only an unscrupulous shop or owner would do it. It could only be done as long as it is changed before the car is sold and mileage is more than when it was bought or it would show on the title at least in my state it would. I believe it takes a Tech II programmer to set the mileage.
Le Mans Master
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From: H-Town Texas
If you were seriously interested, I would take it to a Chevy dealership for inspection, letting them know your concern upfront. If the seller gives you any resistance to your request there's your red flag.
As far as the tires go, are they the Goodyear GS-DS? Those were the factory tires and have been discontinued. It is possible that the seller sold the tires as they draw premium prices and put on some used tires.
If the oil was Mobil One or equivalent, I might be concerned. However if it was Dino, then black is probably normal.
As far as the tires go, are they the Goodyear GS-DS? Those were the factory tires and have been discontinued. It is possible that the seller sold the tires as they draw premium prices and put on some used tires.
If the oil was Mobil One or equivalent, I might be concerned. However if it was Dino, then black is probably normal.
Team Owner
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From: Phila., PA burbs
If you unplug the VSS the miles will stop turning on the odometer (not sure about the PCM though). I was on the way to the track one day when the shaft in my VSS snapped. The speedometer then fails to work and the odo stays the same. You do get a trouble code displayed, but the vehicle operated fine (no limp home mode). As a matter of fact I ran the car that way at the track that day and it turned the same times it normally does. So buyer beware when I sell my car some day.......................it actually has 124,260 miles even though the odo reads 124,200
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Racer
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From: Flint Michigan, #2 in unemployment, #3 in Violent crimes
mileage CAN be set with the correct equipment and leave NO signs of tampering. howerever, a dealer should have some type of records for any service done, in the system that any dealer should be able to pull up.
or a carfax or DMV.org report should list any transfer miles, UNLESS this guy is the original owner, then the online reports wont show up because the car was never transfered.
also, after 10 years old, the state will no longer require a mileage listing on the title, so if it was sold and no mileage put on the title, state will list it as "NOT RECOREDED"
or a carfax or DMV.org report should list any transfer miles, UNLESS this guy is the original owner, then the online reports wont show up because the car was never transfered.
also, after 10 years old, the state will no longer require a mileage listing on the title, so if it was sold and no mileage put on the title, state will list it as "NOT RECOREDED"
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From: Mundelein Illinois
If you stop the VVS information before the BCM and after the ECM you stop the mileage. The BCM will go into a limp mode and the check engine light will come on. Once you rehook up the wire the check engine light will turn off after about 5 miles. It's a little trick but it can be done. If the guy has access to prom reader he can take the prom out and reset the mileage to what ever he wants. As other stated check the out totally, if it doesn't look or smell right walk away.
Racer
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From: Bartonville Illinois
If I liked the car I would spend the money for the Carfax. There were several pages of service work provided on my 1993 and consistent odometer readings. They also had the names and addresses of the other three guys that owned it. The guy I bought mine from had the window sticker and all with it and records from his Chevy dealer.
I have a neighbor that bought a 35th anniversary vette with 58000 miles on it. He bought it out of state and the title had been changed along with the odometer. When he found out, his next move was to contact his lawyer. It looks like its easier for a crook to do this stuff if the car can be moved into another state. You also have to be wary of cars with salvage titles.
I have a neighbor that bought a 35th anniversary vette with 58000 miles on it. He bought it out of state and the title had been changed along with the odometer. When he found out, his next move was to contact his lawyer. It looks like its easier for a crook to do this stuff if the car can be moved into another state. You also have to be wary of cars with salvage titles.
Drifting
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Hmmmm, too much bad information being transferred here. . . promoting vette mielage fraud.....
There should be few if any rock chips on the front bumper. If he changed tires, there may be marks left on the wheel when the balancing weights were changed.
The rubber on old tires disenegrate very easily. The rubber goes bad and cracks more than wears.
....are sure you aint fishing for a way to get more miles out of your vette?
There should be few if any rock chips on the front bumper. If he changed tires, there may be marks left on the wheel when the balancing weights were changed.
The rubber on old tires disenegrate very easily. The rubber goes bad and cracks more than wears.
....are sure you aint fishing for a way to get more miles out of your vette?
Racer
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From: Cerritos/L.A. California
you can unhook the odometer and hook it back up. I did it in a car of mine that had an electric odometer and the speedo still worked. It is not illegal to unhook the odometer unless you are a dealer doing so and not disclosing it as a tmu (true mileage unknown). Cars that are ten model years old are exempt to odometer disclosers. Carfax will not always tell the truth.
Le Mans Master
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From: Irvine Ca
if any of you have to rebuild your Digital Dash, the answer will be revealed.
of course representing or misrepresenting accurate mileage when selling a car...no matter who you are....is fraud.
of course representing or misrepresenting accurate mileage when selling a car...no matter who you are....is fraud.
