C4 Tech/Performance L98 Corvette and LT1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine

LT1 help

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 14, 2008 | 06:47 PM
  #1  
fredk's Avatar
fredk
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 917
Likes: 55
From: Muskoka Ontario
Default LT1 help

I am chasing down a rich condition in my 93 and have found what might be a problem. The fuel vapor canister purge valve assembly has hoses going into it but none coming out. Can someone check their 93 and tell me what I am missing.

Thanks
Fred
Reply
Old May 15, 2008 | 05:13 PM
  #2  
geist's Avatar
geist
Instructor
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 204
Likes: 0
Default

well since noone else is stepping up maybe I can try to help. I have a 92. And I can forsee that I may making requests like this myself in the future...

Could you post a pic of what you have there so I can see what you are missing? And seeing it may help me locate it quickly.... I only have a short period of daylight when I get home, been putting on my greasey clothes and trying to clean up the lt1 tarpit a little at a time. If you can post by 7:00pm CST (3 hours from now) I should be able to get back to you later tonight
Reply
Old May 16, 2008 | 06:23 AM
  #3  
toptechx6's Avatar
toptechx6
Safety Car
15 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,629
Likes: 28
From: FL
Default

Originally Posted by fredk
I am chasing down a rich condition in my 93 and have found what might be a problem. The fuel vapor canister purge valve assembly has hoses going into it but none coming out. Can someone check their 93 and tell me what I am missing.

Thanks
Fred
Your question is a little confusing, you say hoses (plural) and there are only two hoses that connect to the evap solenoid.
If your vacuum routing label is still present you can verify one goes to the throttle body (top hose in pic) the other to the canister (connected with rusty spring clamp) (note the open port on the throttle body here is the connection for the PCV fresh air tube, removed to show the evap solenoid better)

Reply
Old May 16, 2008 | 08:45 AM
  #4  
Randy93's Avatar
Randy93
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,135
Likes: 0
From: Sebastian Florida
St. Jude Donor '06
Default

That picture looks very familar.
Believe what Top tells you, he is helping me with a code problem.
Reply
Old May 16, 2008 | 12:18 PM
  #5  
toptechx6's Avatar
toptechx6
Safety Car
15 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,629
Likes: 28
From: FL
Default

Originally Posted by Randy93
That picture looks very familar.
Believe what Top tells you, he is helping me with a code problem.
Thanks for the vote of confidence Randy, but maybe you should reserve the pat on the back until we have yours fixed.
I sent you a PM with directions to forum "X", look forward to meeting you.
Reply
Old May 16, 2008 | 01:04 PM
  #6  
Randy93's Avatar
Randy93
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,135
Likes: 0
From: Sebastian Florida
St. Jude Donor '06
Default

Thx, I will have to go over this afternoon and get them.
Reply
Old May 16, 2008 | 04:40 PM
  #7  
fredk's Avatar
fredk
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 917
Likes: 55
From: Muskoka Ontario
Default

Thanks for the picture is worth a thousand words. I am grasping at straws as it is running pig rich. I have changed the map sensor, 02 sensors, and iat sensor and it used a quarter tank of gas for 50 miles.
I am at a loss so she is going into the garage tomorrow. I see by the picture that there is no hose on the other end of the canister purge valve.

Thanks again
Fred
Reply
Old May 16, 2008 | 05:22 PM
  #8  
toptechx6's Avatar
toptechx6
Safety Car
15 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,629
Likes: 28
From: FL
Default

If you have a scan tool take a look at the coolant sensor values before you take it in, good luck. Another thought would be a bad diaphragm in the fuel pressure regulator, pull the vacuum line and check for fuel? Have you checked the pressure?

Last edited by toptechx6; May 16, 2008 at 05:59 PM. Reason: additional suggestion
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-5

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

 Joe Kucinski
Old May 16, 2008 | 05:33 PM
  #9  
JAKE's Avatar
JAKE
Le Mans Master
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 9,715
Likes: 27
From: Kempner Texas
Default

Something's not right. I believe the hose connected to the top hose bib on the throttle body connects to the coolant vent tubes at the back of each cylinder head. I'll check that just to be sure.

My PCV hose connects to the front of the intake manifold.

I'll pull my passenger side cover just to make sure and I'll post my results.

Of course, mine's a 96 so it might be different.

Jake

Last edited by JAKE; May 16, 2008 at 05:35 PM. Reason: 2nd Thoughts
Reply
Old May 16, 2008 | 05:37 PM
  #10  
STL94LT1's Avatar
STL94LT1
Race Director
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 12,261
Likes: 85
From: O'Fallon Missouri
Default

Originally Posted by JAKE
Of course, mine's a 96 so it might be different.
Yes, 96 was different.
Reply
Old May 16, 2008 | 08:11 PM
  #11  
fredk's Avatar
fredk
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 917
Likes: 55
From: Muskoka Ontario
Default

Fuel pressure is 39lbs. which is where TPIS says it should be run at with my mods.

Fred
Reply
Old May 16, 2008 | 08:38 PM
  #12  
JAKE's Avatar
JAKE
Le Mans Master
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 9,715
Likes: 27
From: Kempner Texas
Default

Originally Posted by fredk
Fuel pressure is 39lbs. which is where TPIS says it should be run at with my mods.

Fred
I question that setting. From memory in their Insider Hints booklet TPIS recommeds something in the range of 47 psi w/o vacuum. Saying that GM finally realized the benefit of high fuel pressure.

Check me if I'm wrong that.

Jake
Reply
Old May 16, 2008 | 08:43 PM
  #13  
STL94LT1's Avatar
STL94LT1
Race Director
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 12,261
Likes: 85
From: O'Fallon Missouri
Default

Originally Posted by JAKE
Check me if I'm wrong that.
You're wrong. TPIS does recommends 39 psi for an untuned LT1.
Reply
Old May 16, 2008 | 09:38 PM
  #14  
JAKE's Avatar
JAKE
Le Mans Master
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 9,715
Likes: 27
From: Kempner Texas
Default

Well, there's something amiss here.

Since I'm in D.C. and my Insider Hints booklet is in Texas, I can't quote page number, but the TPIS website tells a different story.

Their site says the preferred setting is 47-48 psi, engine idling, vacuum hose disconnected.

Jake
Reply
Old May 16, 2008 | 09:44 PM
  #15  
STL94LT1's Avatar
STL94LT1
Race Director
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 12,261
Likes: 85
From: O'Fallon Missouri
Default

Directly from TPIS' web page.

"Since we introduced our Fuel Pressure Regulator in 1987, GM has adopted on the '88-'90 vehicles the fuel pressure that we have found to work well on the '85-'87's. For the '88-'90, we find that 49-52 works well. The LT1 fuel pressure is unusually high for the way the computer is calibrated. We are finding that, unless you send us your computer for reprogramming, you will be faster at 39 PSI, with a stock to bolt on modded engine. Installation time: 30 minutes. Lifetime guarantee. Emission-legal in all 50 states (EO Number 235-2).
This is one of the main tuning tools for wide open throttle, it's like changing main jets on a carburator, but with a simple turn of the screw. If you bring your car to a dyno with a wide band air fuel ratio gauge, this will fine tune the air fuel ratio. Don't forget to pick up a fuel pressure test gauge."
Reply
Old May 16, 2008 | 10:00 PM
  #16  
JAKE's Avatar
JAKE
Le Mans Master
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 9,715
Likes: 27
From: Kempner Texas
Default

Thanks for that.

Jake
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To LT1 help





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:47 AM.

story-0
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-1
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-3
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-7
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-24 16:12:42


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE