coilovers vs. adjustable qa1s
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coilovers vs. adjustable qa1s
Exotic muscle offers a set of coilovers for 995... the price seems reasonable but has anyone used them?
what about these vs. the qa1's. I like the adjustabilty without removal, price and the fact the I think the coil overs would be jumping me into a way different scca class
My car is being used for 95% track so that all I care about in handling
I have the z52 on an 88 which is somewhere around 115 in the front and 39 in the rear for springs... pretty close to the stiffest in the front and medium in the rear as far as stock springs for the c4 go
what about these vs. the qa1's. I like the adjustabilty without removal, price and the fact the I think the coil overs would be jumping me into a way different scca class
My car is being used for 95% track so that all I care about in handling
I have the z52 on an 88 which is somewhere around 115 in the front and 39 in the rear for springs... pretty close to the stiffest in the front and medium in the rear as far as stock springs for the c4 go
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You can do both. QA1 with coilovers.
If your car is a 95% track car, then you really want to go with coilovers.
I've got QA1'a now. But after seeing the shock dyno graphs on some QA1's, I'm going with a diffferent shock.
I'm stepping up to Penske coilovers.
Hardbar, forum vendor, is doing some new mounts, including a new rear setup, that's meant to take the loads.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...1833622&page=8
If your car is a 95% track car, then you really want to go with coilovers.
I've got QA1'a now. But after seeing the shock dyno graphs on some QA1's, I'm going with a diffferent shock.
I'm stepping up to Penske coilovers.
Hardbar, forum vendor, is doing some new mounts, including a new rear setup, that's meant to take the loads.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...1833622&page=8
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I have the EM coilovers with Bilstein sport shocks. I like them. They really stiffened up the ride and cornering is great. If you're really into track time, I'm sure that Brian's setup is much superior (and probably a lot more $$$).
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You can do both. QA1 with coilovers.
If your car is a 95% track car, then you really want to go with coilovers.
I've got QA1'a now. But after seeing the shock dyno graphs on some QA1's, I'm going with a diffferent shock.
I'm stepping up to Penske coilovers.
Hardbar, forum vendor, is doing some new mounts, including a new rear setup, that's meant to take the loads.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...1833622&page=8
If your car is a 95% track car, then you really want to go with coilovers.
I've got QA1'a now. But after seeing the shock dyno graphs on some QA1's, I'm going with a diffferent shock.
I'm stepping up to Penske coilovers.
Hardbar, forum vendor, is doing some new mounts, including a new rear setup, that's meant to take the loads.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...1833622&page=8
I guess with that in mind, HOW much better in your experience are the penskes over the qa1's?
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I am sure the top Pens are a lot better than the QA1s, but bottom end Pens vs top QA1's not sure. The Penskes are rebuildable which would be a big plus in your case, not sure about the QA1s.
Spend the money once and get the Penskes and never wish you had purchased a better one later.
Spend the money once and get the Penskes and never wish you had purchased a better one later.
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smart man... Believe me, that is the argument that goes on in my head when it comes to all these mods.
I guess my ultimate goal is to build an awesome road racer with 20k in mods.
Being as my current shocks are way past due for a change I am seriously considering just getting the some kyb's to get my by for a year and then go with the pens..
then again qa1s arent much more than the kybs
Has anyone run either of the exoctic muscle coilover for a 1000 or 1400?
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You can do both. QA1 with coilovers.
If your car is a 95% track car, then you really want to go with coilovers.
I've got QA1'a now. But after seeing the shock dyno graphs on some QA1's, I'm going with a diffferent shock.
I'm stepping up to Penske coilovers.
Hardbar, forum vendor, is doing some new mounts, including a new rear setup, that's meant to take the loads.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...1833622&page=8
If your car is a 95% track car, then you really want to go with coilovers.
I've got QA1'a now. But after seeing the shock dyno graphs on some QA1's, I'm going with a diffferent shock.
I'm stepping up to Penske coilovers.
Hardbar, forum vendor, is doing some new mounts, including a new rear setup, that's meant to take the loads.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...1833622&page=8
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Like I said in my earlier post, I have the EM (EM=Exotic Muscle) $1000 coilovers. I can't believe that the QA1's and the KYB's are similar in price. KYB's are fine for city driving, but no way I would run them on a track.
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smart man... Believe me, that is the argument that goes on in my head when it comes to all these mods.
I guess my ultimate goal is to build an awesome road racer with 20k in mods.
Being as my current shocks are way past due for a change I am seriously considering just getting the some kyb's to get my by for a year and then go with the pens..
then again qa1s arent much more than the kybs
Has anyone run either of the exoctic muscle coilover for a 1000 or 1400?
I guess my ultimate goal is to build an awesome road racer with 20k in mods.
Being as my current shocks are way past due for a change I am seriously considering just getting the some kyb's to get my by for a year and then go with the pens..
then again qa1s arent much more than the kybs
Has anyone run either of the exoctic muscle coilover for a 1000 or 1400?
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Yes, but it's kinda privaledged information.
It's a weird looking graph. They're not pressurized shocks. The stiffeness doesn't vary with frequency at all. I got them because of the ease of adjustment, you can adjust them on the car w/o having to remove the tires. I'll be trailering my car to events as soon as the blower is installed, so that will no longer be an issue.
Bilstiens are a better shock, but they're not consistant. One shock will not have the same graph as the next. The SCCA finally gave up on making Spec Miatas run the factory Bilsteins since they were all over the place!
Better still are Konis, but you can only adjust the shocks by taking them off the car.
On the Penskes, you an separate out the highs from the lows. Going over a bump say, verses side to side sway in a slalom.
You spend all this time and $$$ trying to make our cars better, but if you can't get it to the ground it's not going to help.
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right now my shocks are done for, so that was the only reason I was going to run the kyb's... just to finish the season while saving for some big time coilovers. I realize they aren't track shocks, but at this point, anything would be better than what I have...
My car sways so bad on the track it looks like an uncle buck car lol
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How much better are the dual (bound and rebound independant) adjustment 24 way qa1's vs. the 12 way single (bound and rebound are adjusted at the same time)? I see a huge advantage in the duals because you can take car of things like wheel hop a little better for example
price is 140 per shock and 300 per shock. Are they worth twice as much?
price is 140 per shock and 300 per shock. Are they worth twice as much?
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I wana go with 8 inch spring ,to lower the my ride height. ( now i use Bilestien with 10" spring for rear).
question is , what is better coil to use for my 90 corvette rear setup?
I will buy from Strange E. coil-over shocks.
they have to shocks fr 8 inch spring:
extended Lengh with 12.84 "
the other with 11.36 " .
So which one do you recommend me guys?
question is , what is better coil to use for my 90 corvette rear setup?
I will buy from Strange E. coil-over shocks.
they have to shocks fr 8 inch spring:
extended Lengh with 12.84 "
the other with 11.36 " .
So which one do you recommend me guys?
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coilovers
has anybody heard about timing for the release of the hardbar hardware for coilovers?? i see the front upper mount (?clevis) on their webpage but not the remaining mounting pieces...
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The Penske design is all set, but with all the demand for using them with different shocks, he's had to redesign them so they will fit.
As far as me...
Well it really sounds like I need double adjustables in order to do what I need
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=2127427
http://sccaforums.com/forums/thread/311295.aspx
That's going to run me $900 per corner.
With it being so late in the season, I'm putting it off until spring, when I'll do a complete suspension rebuild.
As far as me...
Well it really sounds like I need double adjustables in order to do what I need
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=2127427
http://sccaforums.com/forums/thread/311295.aspx
That's going to run me $900 per corner.
With it being so late in the season, I'm putting it off until spring, when I'll do a complete suspension rebuild.
Last edited by BrianCunningham; Sep 9, 2008 at 04:21 PM.
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Keep the shocks that you have. DO NOT waste your money on KYB's. They are fine if you drive around in city traffic only. They are total crap when you get on high-speed twisties. I had them for about 4 years and I could not keep up with Ford F-250-s on 90 mph twisties.
