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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 10:15 PM
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I have a 1987 with the electronic/digital climate control. The defrost and heat seem to work ok, but the AC is not working. When I take it to max cool (60 degrees) the AC compressor never kicks on.

I have one of those AC charging set ups you get at the auto parts store. It is reading 45 which according to the gage is good.

Not sure where to go from here. This is my first Vette and I am just learning. Thank you in advance for any help.
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I have a 1987 with the electronic/digital climate control. The defrost and heat seem to work ok, but the AC is not working. When I take it to max cool (60 degrees) the AC compressor never kicks on.

I have one of those AC charging set ups you get at the auto parts store. It is reading 45 which according to the gage is good.

Not sure where to go from here. This is my first Vette and I am just learning. Thank you in advance for any help.
......you could have a low refrigerant charge and thusly, a sensor is NOT letting you turn on the compressor, saving the system...there is a large "connector" that is located in/on one of the large aluminum a/c lines that is located near the firewall-heaterbox area....

...remove that plug and short the PLUG/CONNECTOR with a paperclip with the ignition on and the ac on high.....if the ac clutch at the front of the compressor come on (pulls in) then, you know that the clutch on the ac compressor is good and that you are probably low on refrigerant which means you'll have to charge up the system....
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 10:40 PM
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i was told that if low ac the ecm will not let ac clutch kick on take your pos wire off battery than put back on you should hear your ac clutch kick on .if your ac gas low clutch will stop working till she is filled up with the right amount of charge .
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i was told that if low ac the ecm will not let ac clutch kick on take your pos wire off battery than put back on you should hear your ac clutch kick on .
The 87 AC system doesn't work that way.

The Heater/AC Control Head monitors the High Pressure Cut Out switch and the Pressure Cycling switch. Both switches must be closed.

You can unplug the electrical connector at each switch and use an ohm meter and measure across the switch. Should measure zero ohms.

For the Pressure cycling switch to close requires at least 47 psi of pressure in the system. If both switches are closed and AC is requested the Heater/AC control head will signal the Blower Control Module to engage the compressor clutch.

The Blower Control Module provides the ground path for the AC Clutch coil. The clutch coil pulls in the clutch plate and engages the compressor.

A signal is also sent to the ECM to increase engine rpm to compensate for the extra load placed by the compressor.


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Thank you for all of your replys. I certainly appreciate it.

Now I have somewhere to start troubleshooting.
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Originally Posted by Da Mail Man
......you could have a low refrigerant charge and thusly, a sensor is NOT letting you turn on the compressor, saving the system...there is a large "connector" that is located in/on one of the large aluminum a/c lines that is located near the firewall-heaterbox area....

...remove that plug and short the PLUG/CONNECTOR with a paperclip with the ignition on and the ac on high.....if the ac clutch at the front of the compressor come on (pulls in) then, you know that the clutch on the ac compressor is good and that you are probably low on refrigerant which means you'll have to charge up the system....
I did what you said above and the AC compressor kicked on. So thats good news. I put some refrigerant in it and then the compressor was kicking on and off by itself. I watched the gage on my servicing hose and it would kick on at 45 or so and kick back off at about 20 and kept cycling on and off. I guess I need more refirgerant. The car was converted to R134 about 4 years ago according to the sticker. Do I need to add oil also?
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Originally Posted by 87RedVet
I did what you said above and the AC compressor kicked on. So thats good news. I put some refrigerant in it and then the compressor was kicking on and off by itself. I watched the gage on my servicing hose and it would kick on at 45 or so and kick back off at about 20 and kept cycling on and off. I guess I need more refirgerant. The car was converted to R134 about 4 years ago according to the sticker. Do I need to add oil also?
.....sounds like a low charge to me...you can put in some more refrigerant however, you will keep on having to do that until you locate and fix the leak.....as far as the oil goes, did you do the original conversion or did someone else?

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.....sounds like a low charge to me...you can put in some more refrigerant however, you will keep on having to do that until you locate and fix the leak.....as far as the oil goes, did you do the original conversion or did someone else?
Someone else did the original conversion before I got the car. There is a sticker on the blower motor with the date and the information of the auto shop that did it. It was done sometime in 2004.

I just put another can of refrigerant in it. It also had 3 ounces of oil in it. The AC is blowing cold now. We will see how long it lasts. The AC did not work when I bought the car so chances are it does have a leak somewhere. But for now, its cold.

Thanks to all who supplied me with information and diagrams, again I do appreciate it.
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