For the love of god, unless you have absolutely no choice do not go to this place. The Goodyear Gemini Garage, at 105 Jazie Drive in Savannah, GA 31410, They will bend you over and they won't use lube.

$400 damn dollars to replace a starter, and they screwed up my ESC unit while replacing it, and have the nerve to tell me it was that way when they got it which is , so they won't do anything about it but write up a new bill at which point I told them to go F themselves.

I got screwed by these A'holes, so I'm using it to warn anyone in the area, whatever you do, DO NOT go to these pieces of feces.

 

Damn, for $400 you could have gotten a new starter, lift equipment (stands and jack) and a new 3/8 wrench and socket set to put it on!!

This is why I haven't gone to a mechanic in almost 2 years now!

 

3hrs labor at $75 and $150 starter,plus tax and you are right at $400. Dont see your beef there, accidents will happen when working on cars; though I do not see how they could have ESC. Unless, they were checking other things and what did they do to it anyway?
Does it run bad?

 

It cost me $30 including parts. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=2060042 I've had several problems with local Goodyear and Firestone shops. Most of those places only care about one thing, $$$. They want to take your money and get you out the door as quickly as possible so they can get the next car in.

 

I don't imagine that I'll be looking for service in that particular part of North America, but I hear your pain...on the other hand - except for the unknown reason as to how they messed up your ESC ??, $400 sounds like it would be in the ball park. It doesn't take long for the costs to add up - so like a previous post indicated...it's better to do the work yourself - that's the reason I got into a 20+ year old car...to get the satisfaction of doing the work myself and knowing that it is done right. I take my time and take the extra care that I know would not be given at an in-and-out shop. The beauty of these cars is really their simplicity and ease of working on them...unless you are changing a heater core, so I hear!! Enjoy the ride and the time you get to work on it!

 

3hrs labor...to change a starter? Okay, I haven't done one on the vette before, but I've changed starters in some pretty awkward situations and it didn't take 3 hours. I don't see how, with a lift and air tools it should be more that 1 hour, including putting it on and getting back off the lift

 

Gotta say on this one.

I took the starter off on my '91 before removing the tranny and it was pretty easy. It took me longer to get the tranny cooler lines out of the way once I had the starter unbolted. This was on jackstands with NO experience with a starter. I'm talking I didn't know where it was located until I checked out my FSM. Its seriously 2 bolts, a heat shield, and wires. I imagine it will take me all of 20 minutes for my first time putting one back on.

 

Parts
. OEM Part

. Price
Starter Motor
.
. 1 - Starter Assembly
. 10455709

. $485.06
.
. 1988-92: Component Parts Not Serviced Separately.

Labor
. Skill
Level

. Mfg.
Warr.

. Std.
Starter Motor
.
. Replace
. B

. 0.0

. 1.2
Notes


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1.2 hours in the book, $485 for the part. Sounds like a $600+ job to me.

-- Joe

 

ACDELCO Part # 3361054 {#19133850}
STARTER,(REMAN) 2 DOORS; NIPPONDENSO OSGR (1.4 KW)
STARTER,(REMAN) CONVERTIBLE; NIPPONDENSO OSGR (1.4 KW)

Reman. AC/Delco on RockAuto for $181.79 for a '90 corvette.

1.2 Hours at $75/hr labor or $100/hr

Total Labor: $90 ; or $120.
Total Parts: 181.79

Total: $271.79 at $75/hr labor ; $301.79 at $100/hr labor.

Granted the starter is a reman., but new or remans of other quality brands can be had for less and possibly with lifetime warranties also.

Just my .02 cents. Correct me if I'm wrong in the labor/starter costs. (I know how much you love that anesthes )

 

I think my reman starter was about $130, but I'd still charge the customer $485. Especially if the car was shiny.

-- Joe

 

LMFAO!

 

It's Corvette Tax! After they spend 20 minutes telling you how the corvette is the best car in the world, and how many were made in their option and color you need to remind them "Those special parts are EXPENSIVE!"

-- Joe

 

Or it's the guy is from out of town! Not to hijack but my son in school in Orlando had fuel issue in my chevy truck talked to him sounded like FP told him to take to Chevy dealer cuase had put a lifetime GUARENTEE pump in about 50k back. Fist they said about $1100 for FP, Fuel Fileter, EGR and Solenoid. Called them I would only allow a new pump to take care of warrenty, he had just put a new filter on. They put the pump on said old one wasn't GM (this Smells ) then said bill was $679. I called them back and asked why heard two stories of different rate 79.99 hr then 99.99 (humm). Then asked for copy of bill faxed in and they said it was 5 hours to change out . I started to have a little discussion on the phone with the service writer and asked why 5 hrs when book is 2.1. I heard this big sucking sound on the other end while they caught their breath then they said it was to flush the line out. Well Again I told them had a problem with the bill and the hours envolved and asked for a copy to fax to my office. Well when it came in it was now $479 and a note that she had talked to the service manager and my bill was adjusted They did now what to say about me busting them and then they charge $29 to write the service ticket . My dealer here in town could not believe all the and they just grinned when they saw the bill and I asked for the zone manager name for that area. I have asked for my pump back and am not done yet. How many other people have they pulled this BS on and I don't think Chevy will be very happy when I fill out the questionare.
wro87

 

I changed one on my mustang equipped with long tube headers before, what a pain! My hands were in the most awkward position...It took me just over 45 minutes only using a scissor jack.

 

Dealerships have a serious problem. They charge for a complete job based on the book. Then they pay their mechanic a flat rate for the job. The mechanic can only make money if he can do the job in less time than the book. So, his incentive is to work fast and take short cuts which leads to mistakes. The service writer is pushed to increase the ticket. They don't care about the customer, just how much they can get out of them. My son just quit the dealership mechanic job as the business was dropping off and the flat rate pay sucked. Put this together and you can see why dealerships don't (usually) give you the best job satisfaction. The turn over of mechanics is as bad as Pep Boys.

 

I feel your pain, I had a 97 Ford F-150 with a broken stud in the manifold that held the pipe on, and the muffler shop give me a quote of 700.00 to fix the broken stud....

We exchanged a few looks, and i said get my truck off that lift, i'm outta here!

For Goodness sake...700 bucks to torch out a stud and replace it?bullfeathers

I fixed it myself, five bucks for a small C-clamp at sears, and a small tack weld..

in my opinion...they can all go out of buisness before i spend that kind of money for a 50.00 job, and once more you all know it!

Rip off, rip off, rip off !!


Some of these shops are charging more per hour than Doctors and Lawyers....I paid 45.00 for my last Dr.s visit for a physical exam, ears eyes nose throat, blood pressure, medicine check, reflex, and was there for about a hour.

95.00 for my last dentist bill, novicane, relaxing music, bad tooth extracted, touch up and clean affected area, 7-8 years this guy goes to dental school, he shoulda charged 700 bucks

My last visit to the family Lawyer, 125.00 POA papers for my parents, drawn documents, included in the price was a visit to my parents home, from a notory service, and 5 copies of the paper work.

and i'm going to pay some 1 year educated wyotech mechanic, 700 bucks to burn a stud out of my manifold, and put a bolt in it in 30 mins?

I think not. its gotten way out of hand...

Screw it ...i'll buy new

C

 

Contact GY's regional office and file a complaint about the ECM. The GY here installed a starter on my sons mustang last year and somehow managed to short out his stereo. I contacted the customer service dept and when all was said and done, they sent me a check for the full replacement amount.
The labor rate might be harder to argue against.

 

I don't agree with your point. Most any mechanic should be able to do it in about 75% of the time the book allots, some jobs even quicker with no reduction quality. The procedures in the book are outlined for average mechanics. Even items with a skill level of "A" are easy to do.
Most mechanics at the dealership have done the same task more than once, and have found the best way to do it.

No offense, but your son hasn't had enough experience. My family used to own a GM dealership, I've owned a shop that used flat rate, and I'm on very good terms with the local dealership (that bought our assets). All the mechanics are very well skilled and make a killing.

Maybe locale has a lot to do with it? I'm not saying your wrong, just saying up here this is how it is. All the guys I know LOVE flat rate.
Some engine jobs pay up to 22 hours when they can get it done in a day..

-- Joe

 

yes, generally I do all my own work, but (long story) all my tools are in Myrtle Beach atm.

The wire was almost completely riped out of the esc sensor, which I couldn't figure out why anyone would need to bother it when changing a starter. This was just part of my main complaint to them, the rest of the complaint was about the grease on my paint, driver side carpet and seat, I know these guys have heard of soap.

nyernga1 - I got in touch with the regional office almost as soon as I got back to my house.

The bill shows $96.80 to install the starter, when it gets to the summary theres a labor total of $198.80 with no account for where the rest of the labor charge comes from, seems to be $102 dollars that magically appears in the summary

 

Did you ask how much before you authorized the job? No, well it's all on you.