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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 09:15 AM
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I'm looking at the Lingenfelter 219 cam. How hard is the install?

I've never done one before.
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 09:27 AM
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You have to take out the radiator, the shroud and everything that goes with that.

take off the intake manifold. You have a super ram, right?

take off the rockers and push rods

take out the lifters

Remove the distributor

I removed the oil pan as not to have to put the timing cover back wrong, which you have to remove

You have to remove the AC compressor, the water pump, the alternator, the harmonic balancer, the timing gear.

The AIR system if you still have it....

so...ain't easy...but it ain't hard either, just time consuming

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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 09:28 AM
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http://www.hashmarks.com/techtips/hot_cam.htm

Different cam, but same procedure.
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by jsup
You have to take out the radiator, the shroud and everything that goes with that.

take off the intake manifold. You have a super ram, right?

take off the rockers and push rods

take out the lifters

Remove the distributor

I removed the oil pan as not to have to put the timing cover back wrong, which you have to remove

You have to remove the AC compressor, the water pump, the alternator, the harmonic balancer, the timing gear.

The AIR system if you still have it....

so...ain't easy...but it ain't hard either, just time consuming
Got your PM.

I should have changed the cam when I did my water pump and harmonic balancer. I changed my radiator at the same time to a Dewitts. I was half way there.

Why does the Superam intake have to come off?
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Kool88vette
Got your PM.

I should have changed the cam when I did my water pump and harmonic balancer. I changed my radiator at the same time to a Dewitts. I was half way there.

Why does the Superam intake have to come off?
its really hard to get the lifters out with an intake on.
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 10:28 AM
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its really hard to get the lifters out with an intake on.
Especially with a roller cam...
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Originally Posted by FICINJECTORS
its really hard to get the lifters out with an intake on.
that actually made me me laugh a little...not sure if you were trying to be funny or not..
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 11:08 AM
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I installed my cam without pulling the intake.

A reference to my installation can be found in this thread. I couldn't find my original post on the topic since the search doesn't seem to go back far enough.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...ht=pen+magnets
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 86GoldProject
that actually made me me laugh a little...not sure if you were trying to be funny or not..
no not trying to be funny.. sorry Fred if t came out like that. This would of been better.. You can not remove the lifers without removing the intake.
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by tequilaboy
I installed my cam without pulling the intake.

A reference to my installation can be found in this thread. I couldn't find my original post on the topic since the search doesn't seem to go back far enough.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...ht=pen+magnets
I guess it's safe to assume you didnt remove the lifters?
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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no not trying to be funny.. sorry Fred if t came out like that. This would of been better.. You can not remove the lifers without removing the intake.
of course you can, you simply hold the lifters up each individually with small magnets (the telescopic pickup tool kind) after loosening the rockers, pull the cam, then drop the lifters down and fish them out( chances are a couple with get stuck in the lifter valley when you try to remove the magnets..). Putting em back in would be pretty hard though.. no idea why you would want to do that though.. if you're going to go through all the trouble of installing a new cam you should at least do it right and pull the intake off..

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Originally Posted by 86GoldProject
I guess it's safe to assume you didnt remove the lifters?
Right.

The magnets were held in place by the guide plates as shown in the pics and the telescopic length of each magnet was adjusted to hold the lifters up to clear the camshaft. Roller lifters are retained by the spider and will stay in the lifter bore so the magnet can be easily removed. Flat tappets would be trickier to do this way.

Note: I did end up eventually replacing the lifters (about a year later) when I went to the SR/Bigmouth base since I had one lifter that wouldn't pump up properly.

I think this was a pre-existing lifter problem that I had corrected with over adjustment many years ago and had forgotten about, but some sources suggest that lifters can be adversely affected by magnetism.

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Originally Posted by tequilaboy
I installed my cam without pulling the intake.

A reference to my installation can be found in this thread. I couldn't find my original post on the topic since the search doesn't seem to go back far enough.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...ht=pen+magnets
I remember that thread. I was thinking of doing that.
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The intake has to come off, no way around it
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by FICINJECTORS
no not trying to be funny.. sorry Fred if t came out like that. This would of been better.. You can not remove the lifers without removing the intake.
It's OK
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 08:22 PM
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Just a heads up...the 219 will have a hard time passing smog unless EVERYTHING else is perfect.
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by John A. Marker
Just a heads up...the 219 will have a hard time passing smog unless EVERYTHING else is perfect.
Thanks John, how do you like the 211?

I not sure if I'll actually change it. The smog test worries me and I wonder if a 211 would be an improvement.

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