Need help ASAP!
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Le Mans Master
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From: Greenville SC
Need help ASAP!
Driving home tonight for about 25 min.'s, everything fine, stopped at Shell and got 93, went a few miles and stopped at a light. After a few seconds car started sputtering, wanting to die, check engine light came on, and loud metal ticking sound (like a fan hitting something) from motor area. I got it in the driveway and shut it off, felt like it hardly had any power. Started it twice more and had to give it gas to keep it running, same ticking sound. Didn't want to run it long or move it.
Does this sound like a serious motor problem, or bad gas or what?
Again it was fine until a few miles after getting gas.
Does this sound like a serious motor problem, or bad gas or what?
Again it was fine until a few miles after getting gas.
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Melting Slicks
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As stated, check for error codes(short pin4 and pin12 on ALDL, ignition on(but don't start engine), record errors from digital display. Also, try to locate the vacinity of where this "loud clicking" is coming from.
I would definately not drive the car until you have more information. If you drive it, and it turns out to be something more than just bad gas, you could do a lot more damage to your engine.
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Melting Slicks
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Im thinking fuel pump or fuel filter. Did you run way low on gas and possibly clog the fuel filter. Also look closely to see on the bottom side of all your plug wires arent fouling out on a hot header pipe.
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Pull the historical codes using the paperclip.
Post codes found.
If fuel filter is original replace it.
Have the ICM and coil checked as well.
One time my 92 just flat died, thought it was the opti. Someone suggested replacing the coil and that did the trick until the water pump went.
Post codes found.
If fuel filter is original replace it.
Have the ICM and coil checked as well.
One time my 92 just flat died, thought it was the opti. Someone suggested replacing the coil and that did the trick until the water pump went.
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Are you going to try a bottle of dry gas to see if the symptoms change ?
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Le Mans Master
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OK, removed valve cover and I have a broken spring and retainer....great.
These are CC 918 behives on LE2 heads, less than 16K miles and 2 years old! I know the originals had issues, but I thought these would be OK.
I will take the car to my mechanic ASAP and have him go through for damage. What is the likelyhood that I have piston damage? ZIX I know you had the same issue, what else was damaged?
So here is the big question, should I do a stroker if there is piston damage, or even if there is not? It has about 116K on the motor now, I don't want to have to do this again in 20-30k miles.
These are CC 918 behives on LE2 heads, less than 16K miles and 2 years old! I know the originals had issues, but I thought these would be OK.
I will take the car to my mechanic ASAP and have him go through for damage. What is the likelyhood that I have piston damage? ZIX I know you had the same issue, what else was damaged?
So here is the big question, should I do a stroker if there is piston damage, or even if there is not? It has about 116K on the motor now, I don't want to have to do this again in 20-30k miles.
Le Mans Master
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OK, removed valve cover and I have a broken spring and retainer....great.
These are CC 918 behives on LE2 heads, less than 16K miles and 2 years old! I know the originals had issues, but I thought these would be OK.
I will take the car to my mechanic ASAP and have him go through for damage. What is the likelyhood that I have piston damage? ZIX I know you had the same issue, what else was damaged?
So here is the big question, should I do a stroker if there is piston damage, or even if there is not? It has about 116K on the motor now, I don't want to have to do this again in 20-30k miles.
These are CC 918 behives on LE2 heads, less than 16K miles and 2 years old! I know the originals had issues, but I thought these would be OK.
I will take the car to my mechanic ASAP and have him go through for damage. What is the likelyhood that I have piston damage? ZIX I know you had the same issue, what else was damaged?
So here is the big question, should I do a stroker if there is piston damage, or even if there is not? It has about 116K on the motor now, I don't want to have to do this again in 20-30k miles.
If the valve dropped you could have piston and head damage and a complete tear-down is pretty much necessary. However, from what you said I don't think that the valve dropped...you would have had a much more noticeable problem.
When my retainer broke the valve did not drop, it was held in place by the inner spring (I am running dual springs).
Are you running steel or Ti retainers? Good luck! Let me know if I can be of any help!
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Le Mans Master
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I need to go and luck more closely at the valves.
They were CC steel retainers.
I spoke to LLoyd and he said the same thing you did. He recommended the Patriot Gold Extreme dual springs, what do you think?
They were CC steel retainers.
I spoke to LLoyd and he said the same thing you did. He recommended the Patriot Gold Extreme dual springs, what do you think?
Le Mans Master
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From: Phoenix AZ
If everything in the motor is okay you'll need springs, retainers, and valve locks. Also, you may need to replace the valve seal where the spring broke, and also look very closely at the rocker. Mine got pretty banged up so i replaced it as well.
Good luck!!
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Le Mans Master
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From: Greenville SC
Do you have the high $ Isky Tool Room springs?
RR looks OK.
Valve is down in the hole, can see just the top of stem in the guide.
It is the passenger side head, and the left valve of the pair, don't know if that is intake or not.
RR looks OK.
Valve is down in the hole, can see just the top of stem in the guide.
It is the passenger side head, and the left valve of the pair, don't know if that is intake or not.
Le Mans Master
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From: Phoenix AZ
Did you break a spring AND retainer, or just one or the other?