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Please refresh my memory as to what question I asked.
Originally Posted by MK 82
The question is whether or not the chance of plugging the sock or inline filter increases as the fuel level drops..
Take a glass of muddy water and toss it at a "T" shirt. Take a glass of wet mud and do the same. Which will coat it more? Same mixture different concentrations.
Take a glass of muddy water and toss it at a "T" shirt. Take a glass of wet mud and do the same. Which will coat it more? Same mixture different concentrations.
You haven't listened to a word I've said. I withdraw from this debate before I say something I will regret. I apologize to the OP for this soap opera.
Yes, and x grams that passes through the sock, and hopefully gets caught by the inline filter, of course there's injector cleaners for the other x grams that slip through the inline filter. Unfortunately we don't live in a perfect world. Incidently Multech injectors have a fuel screen in them, not sure all injectors do. I wonder what that's for.
And I'm not fighting any battles. Engineers, give me a break, they've created as many nightmares as they've solved.
Yes, and x grams that passes through the sock, and hopefully gets caught by the inline filter, of course there's injector cleaners for the other x grams that slip through the inline filter. Unfortunately we don't live in a perfect world. Incidently Multech injectors have a fuel screen in them, not sure all injectors do. I wonder what that's for.
And I'm not fighting any battles. Engineers, give me a break, they've created as many nightmares as they've solved.
This is probably the regret part, but I have a realtor explaining filtration to an engineer. And then insulting engineers in general.
Engineers, give me a break, they've created as many nightmares as they've solved.
They invented the opti and located it.Doomed the LT1 to a 4yr life span
I have worked with some who should not be able to carry sharp objects and think they are legends in their own mind. Yes GM engineers at that
They invented the opti and located it.Doomed the LT1 to a 4yr life span
I have worked with some who should not be able to carry sharp objects and think they are legends in their own mind. Yes GM engineers at that
So are you saying that all engineers are incompetent?
So are you saying that all engineers are incompetent?
Nope I worked with a few good ones. About 1 in 4 or 5. Too many did not have a bit of common sense and could not grasp the transition from theory to practical application.A lot like the Opti. Great in theory lousy in application even when vented. If it were mounted on the rear of the engine like a conventional distributor they would have been hailed as ground breaking instead of just broken.
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Nope I worked with a few good ones. About 1 in 4 or 5. Too many did not have a bit of common sense and could not grasp the transition from theory to practical application.A lot like the Opti. Great in theory lousy in application even when vented. If it were mounted on the rear of the engine like a conventional distributor they would have been hailed as ground breaking instead of just broken.
So 75 to 80% of engineers are incompetent. Interesting.
Boy, if that wasn't a personal attack! So here's my back round. I'm 64 and yes a Realtor, for 21 yrs. Before that I was a Machine fabricator and later a research and design specialist, plus I owned my own fabrication business. Worked directly with 100s of engineers. You'd be shocked to know what I've built. Along the way we also built hundreds, yes hundreds of fuel tanks, most were for new equipment, some were replacement tanks. I can gurantee you I've seen the inside of more used fuel tanks than you''ll ever see. I can't begin to tell you how many times I've solved an engineers problem or mistake...their human too. And I'm not knocking your engineers degree...whatever field that is in. Engineers aren't Gods. Like anyone else they do make mistakes.
And if you honestly think all any intank pump needs is a sock to prevent sediment or contaminates from getting to the injectors tell it to the General, or any other car manufacturer. Just tell them in your engineering opinion they don't need an inline filter!
I've also built alot of cars, started when I was 15 yrs. old.
You left out the training in filtration of suspended particles which most engineers, me included, are trained in.
Originally Posted by rick lambert
Boy, if that wasn't a personal attack! So here's my back round. I'm 64 and yes a Realtor, for 21 yrs. Before that I was a Machine fabricator and later a research and design specialist, plus I owned my own fabrication business. Worked directly with 100s of engineers. You'd be shocked to know what I've built. Along the way we also built hundreds, yes hundreds of fuel tanks, most were for new equipment, some were replacement tanks. I can gurantee you I've seen the inside of more used fuel tanks than you''ll ever see. I can't begin to tell you how many times I've solved an engineers problem or mistake...their human too. And I'm not knocking your engineers degree...whatever field that is in. Engineers aren't Gods. Like anyone else they do make mistakes.
And if you honestly think all any intank pump needs is a sock to prevent sediment or contaminates from getting to the injectors tell it to the General, or any other car manufacturer. Just tell them in your engineering opinion they don't need an inline filter!
I've also built alot of cars, started when I was 15 yrs. old.
Well excuse me! May I ask what type of engineering degree you have?
I certainly don't mean to offend, but wasn't it an engineer who designed the Multech injectors? the unvented Opti?
This is what I did before becoming a Realtor (which I recieved the first College degree in the U.S). If you eat anything out of a can, I helped develope it! the harvestor, the coreing, the pealing, the canning and cooking of the product, I helped develope it. Worked for FMC for over 10 years. Helped develope alot of airline equipment, military equipment and yes, even the first space craft launching platform! AND, if you use zip lock bags, I also helped develope the first prototye!
I'm definetly not saying engineers are bad.........whatever their field of expertise is, but like all of us, they do make their mistakes! and sometimes they're very expensive!
So don't blow your horn by saying "I'm an engineer" qualify it! you can't be a specialist in every field! Just because I took intro to economics, history to U.S. economics, micro economics, macro economics doesn't make me an expert in economics!
Last edited by rick lambert; Sep 24, 2008 at 06:48 PM.
Well excuse me! May I ask what type of engineering degree you have?
I certainly don't mean to offend, but wasn't it an engineer who designed the Multech injectors? the unvented Opti?
This is what I did before becoming a Realtor (which I recieved the first College degree in the U.S). If you eat anything out of a can, I helped develope it! the harvestor, the coreing, the pealing, the canning and cooking of the product, I helped develope it. Worked for FMC for over 10 years. Helped develope alot of airline equipment, military equipment and yes, even the first space craft launching platform! AND, if you use zip lock bags, I also helped develope the first prototye!
I'm definetly not saying engineers are bad.........whatever their field of expertise is, but like all of us, they do make their mistakes! and sometimes they're very expensive!
Waffle? I simply asked you a question. What field of engineering do you specialize in? Structural, mechanical, electrical, hydraulics, etc. ect. etc. many fields of expertise, you can't be an expert in all fields!
It's in my profile. The degree will get you into the argument but you must get yourself out. I don't want to fight about this. It is a debate.
Originally Posted by rick lambert
Waffle? I simply asked you a question. What field of engineering do you specialize in? Structural, mechanical, electrical, hydraulics, etc. ect. etc. many fields of expertise, you can't be an expert in all fields!
So 75 to 80% of engineers are incompetent. Interesting.
What percentage of electricians are incompetent?
I can only speak about the engineers I worked with most under 30. I would like to think they all got better at it with age but most of them got fired from GM. The ones that didn't moved up. Electricians? It depends where and what qualifications they have a lot of them never went through an apprenticeship and a lot of those are questionable.Some are good too. I am teaching a class of them at the local Tech college in a 4yr program. Mostly younger guys and some are sharp others are not. Just like life.
Waffle? I simply asked you a question. What field of engineering do you specialize in? Structural, mechanical, electrical, hydraulics, etc. ect. etc. many fields of expertise, you can't be an expert in all fields!
He was in the military for 23yrs and working on Corvettes for over 30yrs too or so he said. I did not know he was a jetjock might explain some things.