Yet another 383 build
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Melting Slicks
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From: Clifton Park NY
Yet another 383 build
Decided that I'm doing it.
ECM and Fuel delivery is not a problem.
Already have the 350 4 bolt main, and its out getting the Scat stroker kit now, should have it back in about 2 weeks.
Decided on this head
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
Having trouble deciding on a cam but so far this is what I've got
http://www.compcams.com/Cam_Specs/Ca...?csid=208&sb=0
D44 rearend 3.45
PeteK 9.5 stall 2500
Opinions? Thoughts? My goals are simple, Neck snapping tq
ECM and Fuel delivery is not a problem.
Already have the 350 4 bolt main, and its out getting the Scat stroker kit now, should have it back in about 2 weeks.
Decided on this head
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
Having trouble deciding on a cam but so far this is what I've got
http://www.compcams.com/Cam_Specs/Ca...?csid=208&sb=0
D44 rearend 3.45
PeteK 9.5 stall 2500
Opinions? Thoughts? My goals are simple, Neck snapping tq
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Decided that I'm doing it.
ECM and Fuel delivery is not a problem.
Already have the 350 4 bolt main, and its out getting the Scat stroker kit now, should have it back in about 2 weeks.
Decided on this head
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
Having trouble deciding on a cam but so far this is what I've got
http://www.compcams.com/Cam_Specs/Ca...?csid=208&sb=0
D44 rearend 3.45
PeteK 9.5 stall 2500
Opinions? Thoughts? My goals are simple, Neck snapping tq
ECM and Fuel delivery is not a problem.
Already have the 350 4 bolt main, and its out getting the Scat stroker kit now, should have it back in about 2 weeks.
Decided on this head
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
Having trouble deciding on a cam but so far this is what I've got
http://www.compcams.com/Cam_Specs/Ca...?csid=208&sb=0
D44 rearend 3.45
PeteK 9.5 stall 2500
Opinions? Thoughts? My goals are simple, Neck snapping tq
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That's a great head. Just know that the only conifg is a straight plug. Check with the headers you choose you can use a straight plug configuration.
Nice setup, you'll love it.
Oh, if you call Brodix and spend $200 they will CNC the bowls and clean up the runners a bit. Money well spent.
Nice setup, you'll love it.
Oh, if you call Brodix and spend $200 they will CNC the bowls and clean up the runners a bit. Money well spent.
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I wound up having to go to the Race Rites because I needed angled plugs with my headers. I found that out only because when I spoke to Brodix, they asked the question. Little things that can cause big problems later.
For the money, hard to beat these heads.
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From: Little Elm TX
That's a great head. Just know that the only conifg is a straight plug. Check with the headers you choose you can use a straight plug configuration.
Nice setup, you'll love it.
Oh, if you call Brodix and spend $200 they will CNC the bowls and clean up the runners a bit. Money well spent.
Nice setup, you'll love it.
Oh, if you call Brodix and spend $200 they will CNC the bowls and clean up the runners a bit. Money well spent.
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Good Luck with your build !! I raced a 383 tpi motor for many, many years and had a blast with it
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If you want a low rpm torquey motor, you just built it.
YOu gonna use TPI?
That cam is mild on a 350 let alone a 383. That head is small for a 350 let alone a 383
Shall be a TORQUE monster and a decent match for a TPI intake system.
I'd actully look into the IK200's if you want to stick with those heads. Alittle larger port and more flow for that bigger 383, shall work out nicely.
If comp made a 224/230 xfi grind, i'd recommend that or else the cc503 cam would be a nice choice. Will make loads of torque and give you abit more hp to boot. There is a point where too much torque is bad and you'll discover trying to hook up on that power will not be that easy lol
YOu gonna use TPI?
That cam is mild on a 350 let alone a 383. That head is small for a 350 let alone a 383
Shall be a TORQUE monster and a decent match for a TPI intake system.I'd actully look into the IK200's if you want to stick with those heads. Alittle larger port and more flow for that bigger 383, shall work out nicely.
If comp made a 224/230 xfi grind, i'd recommend that or else the cc503 cam would be a nice choice. Will make loads of torque and give you abit more hp to boot. There is a point where too much torque is bad and you'll discover trying to hook up on that power will not be that easy lol
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Melting Slicks
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From: Clifton Park NY
I've been doing some dyno simulations on the computer and can see that maybe the 200cc runners would be better.
I'm not going TPI, I can easily flow 700-750 cfm using the intake I have now just by making some minor adjustments. Computer tuning is not an issue as well, and will get some dyno/tune time once the motor is completed.
The cam I selected in not a definate at this point, just a starting point. So any suggestions are welcome
I'm not going TPI, I can easily flow 700-750 cfm using the intake I have now just by making some minor adjustments. Computer tuning is not an issue as well, and will get some dyno/tune time once the motor is completed.
The cam I selected in not a definate at this point, just a starting point. So any suggestions are welcome
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I read it in the Brodix brochure and it said so. I heard on the interweb people are making sick power with those. I saw a guy at the track once that had them, and his car was really fast. All the cool kids buy them. 
You have to look at people who have walked the walk. Who have been there. Many really fast cars run Brodix and that is the reason why they are fast. Time slips don't lie. Dyno numbers don't lie. Look under the curve on on the table. It's all there. Or is it under the table or on the curve? I don't remember..
I mean, check this out:
http://www.brodix.com/media/images/a....07ChevyHP.pdf
What else do you need to know, it's all there. That pic right there is the basis of many auto erotic exercise, I mean who wouldn't?
Call Joe at Brodix, they will help you honestly and accurately pick exactly the head you need. The best for your application.
You have to look at people who have walked the walk. Who have been there. Many really fast cars run Brodix and that is the reason why they are fast. Time slips don't lie. Dyno numbers don't lie. Look under the curve on on the table. It's all there. Or is it under the table or on the curve? I don't remember..
I mean, check this out:
http://www.brodix.com/media/images/a....07ChevyHP.pdf
What else do you need to know, it's all there. That pic right there is the basis of many auto erotic exercise, I mean who wouldn't?
Call Joe at Brodix, they will help you honestly and accurately pick exactly the head you need. The best for your application.
Last edited by jsup; Sep 28, 2008 at 03:13 PM.
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If you want a low rpm torquey motor, you just built it.
YOu gonna use TPI?
That cam is mild on a 350 let alone a 383. That head is small for a 350 let alone a 383 Shall be a TORQUE monster and a decent match for a TPI intake system.
I'd actully look into the IK200's if you want to stick with those heads. Alittle larger port and more flow for that bigger 383, shall work out nicely.
If comp made a 224/230 xfi grind, i'd recommend that or else the cc503 cam would be a nice choice. Will make loads of torque and give you abit more hp to boot. There is a point where too much torque is bad and you'll discover trying to hook up on that power will not be that easy lol
YOu gonna use TPI?
That cam is mild on a 350 let alone a 383. That head is small for a 350 let alone a 383
Shall be a TORQUE monster and a decent match for a TPI intake system.I'd actully look into the IK200's if you want to stick with those heads. Alittle larger port and more flow for that bigger 383, shall work out nicely.
If comp made a 224/230 xfi grind, i'd recommend that or else the cc503 cam would be a nice choice. Will make loads of torque and give you abit more hp to boot. There is a point where too much torque is bad and you'll discover trying to hook up on that power will not be that easy lol
http://brodix.com/heads/compression.html
Based on compression, Brodix recommends as large as 210cc. Compression will be a factor to consider.
Call them, they can help you out....
Last edited by jsup; Sep 28, 2008 at 03:17 PM.
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I read it in the Brodix brochure and it said so. I heard on the interweb people are making sick power with those. I saw a guy at the track once that had them, and his car was really fast. All the cool kids buy them.
You have to look at people who have walked the walk. Who have been there. May really fast cars run Brodix and that is the reason why they are fast. Time slips don't lie. Dyno numbers don't lie. Look under the curve on on the table. It's all there. Or is it under the table or on the curve? I don't remember..
I mean, check this out:
http://www.brodix.com/media/images/a....07ChevyHP.pdf
What else do you need to know, it's all there. That pic right there is the basis of many auto erotic exercise, I mean who wouldn't?
Call Brodix, they will help you honestly and accurately pick exactly the head you need. The best for your application.
You have to look at people who have walked the walk. Who have been there. May really fast cars run Brodix and that is the reason why they are fast. Time slips don't lie. Dyno numbers don't lie. Look under the curve on on the table. It's all there. Or is it under the table or on the curve? I don't remember..
I mean, check this out:
http://www.brodix.com/media/images/a....07ChevyHP.pdf
What else do you need to know, it's all there. That pic right there is the basis of many auto erotic exercise, I mean who wouldn't?
Call Brodix, they will help you honestly and accurately pick exactly the head you need. The best for your application.
I was simply asking, why you think those RR 180 cc cylinder heads were great ? Quite frankly, what I see is a weak head that stalls out at 500 lift at slightly over 240 cfm.... by todays standards, these are the kiddie cylinder heads. The RR 200 cc cylinder head would more than likely be a much better choice for the posters set-up .....
But whatever dude....
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I would guess you're trying to be a smart-*** or something with this response..... I don't even know or care.
I was simply asking, why you think those RR 180 cc cylinder heads were great ? Quite frankly, what I see is a weak head that stalls out at 500 lift at slightly over 240 cfm.... by todays standards, these are the kiddie cylinder heads. The RR 200 cc cylinder head would more than likely be a much better choice for the posters set-up .....
But whatever dude....
I was simply asking, why you think those RR 180 cc cylinder heads were great ? Quite frankly, what I see is a weak head that stalls out at 500 lift at slightly over 240 cfm.... by todays standards, these are the kiddie cylinder heads. The RR 200 cc cylinder head would more than likely be a much better choice for the posters set-up .....
But whatever dude....
Brodix has been in business since 1973, that's 35 years. In that time they have developed a reputation of having impeccable fit and finish and using high quality components.
The most important point:
The engine builders I have spoken to during my first rendition of my motor each and every one of them said Brodix was their first choice for heads in terms of fit, finish, casting quality, and reputation. The perception in these circles of the IKs has been consistent with the reputation of Brodix in racing and high performance circles. Which is why my first choice was the IKs until which time I learned of the angle plug problem.
Posted here a while back was an article that had the 180s on a motor making over 500 HP.
On top of first hand experience from engine builders, many "independent" sources have been touting the IKs as the right head for the money in terms of results and pricing. This includes magazine articles and web based opinions. Take those for what they are worth. Everyone has a marketing department.
Last edited by jsup; Sep 28, 2008 at 03:37 PM.
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Complete machining of block $600
Heads $1200
Budget rotating assembly, balanced $1100
Misc (gaskets, oil, oil pump freeze plugs etc) $400
Assembly of long block $450
cam, lifters, etc $300-$1000 depending on flat tappet or roller