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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 10:36 PM
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Im in the middle of removing parts to replace my opti cap and rotor.
Im down to the Harmonic Balancer Ive removed the 3 bolts need for this take it off ,Ive been told that it should came off fairly easy !!!??
okay well its not..
Anyone done this job that might have a lil info on the removal ?
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 10:40 PM
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Soak it with PB Blaster, get under the car with a piece of wood and tap/beat the balancer/dampner forward. You may have to rotate the engine a little at a time while you beat.
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 09:34 AM
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I used 30lb tamping bar (round end). Went at it for 15 minutes.
Came of hard.
I did the usual soaking and rotated the engine after about 5 hits each time.
Raised Corvette to see the small area to beat on. Tough on the arms !
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 10:00 AM
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Those methods mentioned are fine, but the easiest way is to go to your local auto parts store. Most auto parts stores will lend you specialty tools for many jobs. There is a tool called a harmonic balance puller. Get that from them, and the job will take you all of 10 minutes, then return the tool for your deposit back
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 12:56 PM
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Mine was frozen on as well, the tool from the auto parts store didn't phase that thing. If I remember right we wound up hot tanking the motor and it came off after that!
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Forget about using specialty tools just to remove your balancer/pully. It will easily pop off if you follow these instructions. I've done quite a few and never had to use a specialty tool.....too much time and money....Use a 3lb sledge and a 4 foot long 1/2" by 1"
piece of wood...or a steel bar if you have one(like those bars used for weight lifting)
Pay special attention to the BOLD print......(the balancer/pully is a 2 piece design, and held together by a large rubber gasket. Banging on the outside of the pully can damage this rubber gasket and you will end up with a "wobbly" balancer....ask me how I know!!!)

"Most pulleys have been found to be rusted in place and require considerable effort to separate from the hub. Spraying the inside of the pulley with penetrating oil helps. Do not strike the pulley with a hammer in your frustrated attempts to remove. The best method is to position yourself under the engine with a steel rod (or better yet a brass drift) and one healthy hammer. Position the rod/drift on the inside portion of the balancer when striking it with the hammer. This step requires more than a gentle tap. Try to position yourself so you can give a good solid hit at each rotation. Rotate the crankshaft 120 degrees after every couple of heavy hammer blows. Do not hit on the outer diameter of the pulley as damage can and will occur."

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Originally Posted by ride250s
Those methods mentioned are fine, but the easiest way is to go to your local auto parts store. Most auto parts stores will lend you specialty tools for many jobs. There is a tool called a harmonic balance puller. Get that from them, and the job will take you all of 10 minutes, then return the tool for your deposit back
Obviously you've never pulled the balancer on an LTx engine.
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Originally Posted by Timmy!
Mine was frozen on as well, the tool from the auto parts store didn't phase that thing. If I remember right we wound up hot tanking the motor and it came off after that!

A hammer and piece of wood : $10

Hot tanking the motor to remove a pully/balancer :Priceless !!!

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Kent tool J 39046. Use the right tool to do the job. sure you can rig something to work but theres to much to mess up. This tool is made for this job and it will come right off....G
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Is it safe to assume you've also removed the bolt right in the center of the balancer? There are three in the rim around the center (that you referred to), and there is a fourth right in the center.
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Originally Posted by StephensblackL98
Is it safe to assume you've also removed the bolt right in the center of the balancer? There are three in the rim around the center (that you referred to), and there is a fourth right in the center.
This advice ranks right up there with hot tanking the motor !!

No!! Do not remove the center bolt !! This bolt ONLY holds the hub to the crank shaft. It has nothing to do with removal of the balancer/pully from the hub.




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Originally Posted by 96vetteLT4
Kent tool J 39046. Use the right tool to do the job. sure you can rig something to work but theres to much to mess up. This tool is made for this job and it will come right off....G
Does this tool help remove the balancer/pulley from the hub, or is it just a hub removal tool?
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by STL94LT1
Does this tool help remove the balancer/pulley from the hub, or is it just a hub removal tool?
Nope, this tool is only good for removal and installation of the hub from the crankshaft.... Won't remove balancer/pully from hub....

But everyone here seems to know what is needed

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Surely you jest....

There is no way you gonna get the harmonic balancer off the hub using a puller. It is a two piece design. Once you remove the three bolts, the harmonic balancer is just riding on the center hub. That is where the problem is. The harmonic balancer is frozen to that hub. Once you understand that, you will understand that you can get under the car with a good solid piece of wood, and a sharp whack on that wood with a small sledge to the most inner portion of the balancer will remove 99% of those balancers. You should whack it good on one side.......rotate 90 degrees.....whack it again. Once you loosen a tiny bit, it will start coming off faster and faster. DO NOT STRIKE THE OUTER RING OF THE BALANCER.



Originally Posted by ride250s
Those methods mentioned are fine, but the easiest way is to go to your local auto parts store. Most auto parts stores will lend you specialty tools for many jobs. There is a tool called a harmonic balance puller. Get that from them, and the job will take you all of 10 minutes, then return the tool for your deposit back
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 07:37 PM
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This thread is useless without pics !!

This is why you need to pound on the inner portion of the balancer/pully after you have safely jacked up the car. You can situate yourself just behind the front right tire, and you will have visibility of the back of the balancer/pully assembly. A 3 or 4' piece of wood can reach the inner portion of the balancer/pully. Give it a few good hard whacks with a hand sledge, rotate if necessary, repeat whacking and it should pop right off.

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Originally Posted by STL94LT1
Obviously you've never pulled the balancer on an LTx engine.
Nope! I guess I didn't realize how different the design was. Sorry about that!!!
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Originally Posted by MikeC4
This advice ranks right up there with hot tanking the motor !!

No!! Do not remove the center bolt !! This bolt ONLY holds the hub to the crank shaft. It has nothing to do with removal of the balancer/pully from the hub.



I will say thank you to MiKeC4 for correcting me. Coincidentally, I have my balancer off now, and looked more closely at it after Mike's comment. He is correct - the bolt and the washer do not need to be removed. I took mine out because I was under the impression I needed to.

I apologize for any confusion I may have created.

Stephen
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Glad to hear you got it off. Another method (I haven't tried it) is to slightly loosen the three bolts and then start the engine - this apparently will break it free.
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