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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 10:05 PM
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I want to install an external oil cooler on my 85' have been looking at the derale stacked plate cooler and there thermostatic sandwich adapter. Does anyone have pictures of there installation including cooler location, hose routing, type and size? I have a mostly stock engine but have removed the stock water type cooler from the system.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 10:21 PM
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Do you want to add a cooler for the motor or another one for the transmission?
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 11:04 PM
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Sorry I didn't make it clear it is the engine oil I need to cool I have removed the stock cooler when I installed the rebuilt engine.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 11:52 PM
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I just installed mine on my 85 last month. I routed the cooler lines straight up and came under the power steering pulley and then over and around the radiator box just underneath the frame rail to the front of the a/c condensor. Here are a couple pics:



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how did you mount the cooler, onto the rad?
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how did you mount the cooler, onto the rad?
It's actually mounted to the A/C condensor. There are special ziptie type plastic things made especially for that and they just slide through the fins of the condensor. Some coolers and kits come with them, but you can get them separately also:

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Originally Posted by danno85
It's actually mounted to the A/C condensor. There are special ziptie type plastic things made especially for that and they just slide through the fins of the condensor. Some coolers and kits come with them, but you can get them separately also:

oil cooler mounting kit
Incredible, I did not know it could be that easy, not knowing where to mount a cooler always stumped me....

What do you use for a thermostat, an adapter/stat combo or inline?
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 10:58 AM
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I used plumbers tape, metal strap with holes, to mount mine. I had removed the front fan so used those for bolt holes. It went together really simple. (trans cooler)

There's an oil cooler for sale in the parts section.
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Originally Posted by LD85
Incredible, I did not know it could be that easy, not knowing where to mount a cooler always stumped me....

What do you use for a thermostat, an adapter/stat combo or inline?
The sandwich adaptor I got that mounts between the block and oil filter has a built-in thermostat.
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I took the factory cooler off and my temps are higher now by @ 15 degrees.

When summer comes, I will know more about what my temps will be when I get the engine back in and when it gets warmer ...

Looks like you can cool your oil for $200
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Nice pics! That looks like that will work but my car still has the fan in front of the AC coil and I don't really want to loose it I have noticed that if it is unplugged it does not get as cold with the AC on. I will have to make a mounting bracket to space it out from the front of the fan what hose size did you use? Those look like push lock fittings correct? what brand of cooler is that? Sorry so many questions! I like what you did with the fittings facing down so the coil will drain out and not stay full! good idea,
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Nice pics! That looks like that will work but my car still has the fan in front of the AC coil and I don't really want to loose it I have noticed that if it is unplugged it does not get as cold with the AC on. I will have to make a mounting bracket to space it out from the front of the fan what hose size did you use? Those look like push lock fittings correct? what brand of cooler is that? Sorry so many questions! I like what you did with the fittings facing down so the coil will drain out and not stay full! good idea,
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Not sure what you mean by push lock fittings. I used Earl's plumbing fittings, a 1/2" NPT to -8AN adaptor and then a -10AN 90 degree hose end on each side, and that is 1/2" hose. I did wind up putting a small hose clamp on them after I took the photo. I originally bought a compete Derale kit that included the oil filter adaptor, hose, cooler, etc., but then decided to use a different cooler and got one of these (the smaller 15,000 BTU unit):

cooler

And I'm pretty sure the factory auxiliary fan will clear just fine with the cooler mounted directly to the a/c condensor like that - I don't think you'll need to do anything special. I took mine off and it didn't really seem to make much difference for me. My main cooling fan comes on and runs all the time when the A/C is switched on.

Good luck!
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Dan, this is a great help and those are great prices, can I bug you for the Adapter/thermo model #?

Is it cast or billet?

I have heard the cast adapters don't seal well.
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Not sure what you mean by push lock fittings. I used Earl's plumbing fittings, a 1/2" NPT to -10AN adaptor and then a -10AN 90 degree hose end on each side, and that is 1/2" hose. I did wind up putting a small hose clamp on them after I took the photo. I originally bought a compete Derale kit that included the oil filter adaptor, hose, cooler, etc., but then decided to use a different cooler and got one of these (the smaller 15,000 BTU unit):

cooler

And I'm pretty sure the factory auxiliary fan will clear just fine with the cooler mounted directly to the a/c condensor like that - I don't think you'll need to do anything special. I took mine off and it didn't really seem to make much difference for me. My main cooling fan comes on and runs all the time when the A/C is switched on.

Good luck!
Dan

Those are good prices for the cooler you used I will check into one of those. Thanks for your help.
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Originally Posted by LD85
Dan, this is a great help and those are great prices, can I bug you for the Adapter/thermo model #?

Is it cast or billet?

I have heard the cast adapters don't seal well.

I used this one from Derale, it is not billet, but looks like a good piece to me:

oil filter adaptor with thermostat
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Originally Posted by carlos85vette
Those are good prices for the cooler you used I will check into one of those. Thanks for your help.
Good deal. BTW, I said those fittings were -10AN, but they're actually -8AN for 1/2" hose. I don't know why I can't get that stuff right...

Take care,
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Originally Posted by danno85
I used this one from Derale, it is not billet, but looks like a good piece to me:

oil filter adaptor with thermostat
If it seals, that all that matters !

Thanks!
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Here are a couple of pictures of what I did for my oil cooler. I tried a thermostatic controller, not a sandwich type, it did not seem to work, oil was always cold when street driving. So I did away with the thermostatic controller. -10 hose and fittings, 13 row cooler, the hose routing picture is dated, hose run closer to the engine block now.

An idea of hose routing from below car


Cooler mounted in front of radiator


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Wow, thanks for the pics, there must be a better way to route the hoses
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Originally Posted by danno85
I used this one from Derale, it is not billet, but looks like a good piece to me:

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Can you use this adapter with an oil accumulator or will is not fill the accumulator while its closed?
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