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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 07:01 AM
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Default Minimum car height to remove spring for lowering

My stock '88 had 1" of wedge on top of the spring in addition to, two aluminum spacers that totaled 3/8". The end rubber on the spring ends totals 3/8". Which should give me 1.5" of drop once it's removed and a protective layer added.

I needed 15" of height to remove the spring, measured under the tang of metal at the jacking point. Pic:


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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 07:41 AM
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Man,
That looks familiar!! Finished mine a few weeks ago!! Can't wait for the before/after pics!

I also noticed your front spoiler/brake cooling ducts! Very Nice! How do you like 'em? I saw those in one of the mags and was thinking about getting one, since my old one is worn out!
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 07:45 AM
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Fun times! One of the best mods I've done. I might be going through it all again here soon if I decide to replace the spring.
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 08:29 AM
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Tip the car so that one side is lower than the other (vs jacking each side equally), and clearance isn't an issue
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 09:18 AM
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The opposite control arm still needs to come down quite far! I had 15" on both sides because of that.

The ducts have helped a lot with reducing brake fade for road racing.
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Originally Posted by Aardwolf
The ducts have helped a lot with reducing brake fade for road racing.
Do you have the ducts aimed at the rotor or caliper? Does the ducting go along the a-arm under the tie rod? Any clearance issues with the wheel?

Sorry to get off topic.

When I did my spring I needed the car pretty high. I have a Z51 and the spring practically folded in half when it came out! Its pretty stiff.
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 09:50 AM
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I almost went and got taller jacks, I definitely would have needed them with a Z51 spring!

I ran the ducting right up to the middle open part of the rotor. This 2.5" tubing clears the wheels OK. Pic:


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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 09:52 AM
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Thanks! I am trying to make my own. This helps a lot!
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I've heard a lot of people say to use 3" instead. Also this hose melts but it hasn't lost a lot and is doing OK still. 3" dia. of the expensive high temp silicone would be nice! And spindle ducts, I'm looking to buy or make some this year.
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I am on quite a budget and Im using 3" exhaust fan ducting from home depot. We'll see how it holds up.
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When I was routing mine I wrapped some black electrical tape around the ducting in case the tire rubbed a hole in it before I got it routed well. This helped in not getting any holes!
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Originally Posted by Kubs
Do you have the ducts aimed at the rotor or caliper? Does the ducting go along the a-arm under the tie rod? Any clearance issues with the wheel?

Sorry to get off topic.

When I did my spring I needed the car pretty high. I have a Z51 and the spring practically folded in half when it came out! Its pretty stiff.
Interesting. My '90 spec Z51 spring was much flatter than the base suspension spring I removed...

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The arc on my FHA spring is like the top spring in your picture.

When I was taking things apart I look off the spring protectors and found some years don't have them, so decided not to reinstall them.
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Originally Posted by 96GS#007
Interesting. My '90 spec Z51 spring was much flatter than the base suspension spring I removed...

Wow. Interesting. I didnt have anything to compare mine too but it seemed pretty curved. I had my car up really high and the spring still it the ground. Is yours an aftermarket spring or right off a '90?
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great thread man! I wish I could go real low, but the x frame brace won't allow it.
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A stiffer spring will be less arched than a soft spring. Since it's stiffer, it won't need to flex as much to sit at ride height...

Interesting about the brake ducts. Something I'd like to do someday.
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I just got my spring out a couple of days ago. Like Aardwolf, I needed 15" at the jack stand to get it out. I had already removed the lower control arm on the passenger side which made it easier. I don't think I could have gotten the spring over the LCA ball joint stud had I not removed it. Also, when Aardwolf is talking about not reinstalling the spring protectors, he's NOT talking about the spring retainer brackets. Those have to be trimmed according to how much you remove from the top bushings (including shims) and reinstalled.

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Kim, I cheated with the LCA and ball joint. It did stick up in the way. I put a rag under the spring on top of the ball joint threads then gave the other side of the spring a few taps to get it started past. Worked fine! Removing one LCA would be nice though because of that and working the spring free. I think the toughest part was getting the spring out of the LCA, it was really wedged in there. Plus it didn't want to come out over the boss for the end link.

StealthLT4, from what I remember the stronger Z51 spring is less curved.

Changed the oil while the car was up, the height is about what I would have it at to change the oil. So this isn't really very high up at all.

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Originally Posted by Kubs
Wow. Interesting. I didnt have anything to compare mine too but it seemed pretty curved. I had my car up really high and the spring still it the ground. Is yours an aftermarket spring or right off a '90?
Mine is aftermarket but is an exact match to a genuine '90 FHB spring...same rate, ride height after install, etc. I had a genuine '90 FHB spring I was going to use but it was missing the pads on the spring tips so I ended up using the aftermarket spring.
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Originally Posted by StealthLT4
A stiffer spring will be less arched than a soft spring. Since it's stiffer, it won't need to flex as much to sit at ride height...

Interesting about the brake ducts. Something I'd like to do someday.

That's how mine was.
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