Help!!
Melting Slicks
Joined: Oct 2004
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From: Austin Texas
What tool are you using to try to turn the crank ??
I assume you took off the serpentine belt ??
You need at least a 2 foot breaker bar to turn that engine over by hand. If it is a manual, did you put it in neutral ??
The very last time you had the car running, was it running just fine ? I just find it hard to believe that the engine has seized on you......
I assume you took off the serpentine belt ??
You need at least a 2 foot breaker bar to turn that engine over by hand. If it is a manual, did you put it in neutral ??
The very last time you had the car running, was it running just fine ? I just find it hard to believe that the engine has seized on you......
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Cruising
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Ok this is what the status is.
No Starter on
No Spark Plugs in
No belts on
I'v been repeatingly trying to turn the crank pully. Thats what wrong here people. Mike is the only one who knows the problem here. MY CRANK PULLY WILL NOT MOVE. I'v put a touque wrench on it and nothing. Iv put the key in, and neutral and still nothing. anyone got any ideas on why the crank pully might NOT move?
No Starter on
No Spark Plugs in
No belts on
I'v been repeatingly trying to turn the crank pully. Thats what wrong here people. Mike is the only one who knows the problem here. MY CRANK PULLY WILL NOT MOVE. I'v put a touque wrench on it and nothing. Iv put the key in, and neutral and still nothing. anyone got any ideas on why the crank pully might NOT move?
Last edited by Spikeroo; Mar 11, 2009 at 08:07 PM.
Pro
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From: North Bay Ontario
If it's a manual transmission, try rocking it in high gear to see if the engine rotates.
If it's an auto, remove the flywheel cover and try to rotate the engine using the flywheel or you might find something preventing the rotation at that end.
Try rotating in either direction using the front pulley and see if you have some movement in either direction
If you still can't rotation, rather than tear into the engine too deep, consider removing the TC cover and see if you have rotation with either the cam or crankshaft.
If no luck, I guess you'll have to dig deeper...
If it's an auto, remove the flywheel cover and try to rotate the engine using the flywheel or you might find something preventing the rotation at that end.
Try rotating in either direction using the front pulley and see if you have some movement in either direction
If you still can't rotation, rather than tear into the engine too deep, consider removing the TC cover and see if you have rotation with either the cam or crankshaft.
If no luck, I guess you'll have to dig deeper...
Burning Brakes
Joined: Nov 2007
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From: Cincinnati oh
Spike this (no offense intended here) sounds like it is out of your relm of expertise. I would call a pro and see if they will make a house call (they will usually charge like 60 bucks) call some one who is reputable and knows what they are doing. That way you are not guessing and throwing money at it, Ask a PRO not some one at a parts store or your uncle jimbo who built a 1962 falcon that ran for a month.
If the motor has given up the ghost and Locked up Look at a Jegs 5.7 they are only 1600 and have a 100k warranty. you cant have one rebuilt for that price for sure!
If the motor has given up the ghost and Locked up Look at a Jegs 5.7 they are only 1600 and have a 100k warranty. you cant have one rebuilt for that price for sure!
Melting Slicks
Joined: Oct 2004
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From: Austin Texas
We all seem to panic when we go out to start our vettes and the engine won't crank. You are going to the extreme thinking that your engine is frozen.
Since the last time you drove the car, you reported it ran perfectly. This tells me that your engine is fine. The assumption I will make here is that the car was not overheating at that time, and that it didn't make any weird sounds or noises just prior to shutting it off.
Your problem is more than likely electrical :
1) Weak or defective battery (even a new battery could be DOA)
2) Poor connection of pos. or neg. battery cable
3) Poor connection of neg. cable to block
4) Poor connection of pos. or neg. cables at the starter motor
5) Seized or defective starter motor. (you say you tested it off the car, if so, did the solenoid engage, and did the gear that engages to the flywheel spin?)
Since the last time you drove the car, you reported it ran perfectly. This tells me that your engine is fine. The assumption I will make here is that the car was not overheating at that time, and that it didn't make any weird sounds or noises just prior to shutting it off.
Your problem is more than likely electrical :
1) Weak or defective battery (even a new battery could be DOA)
2) Poor connection of pos. or neg. battery cable
3) Poor connection of neg. cable to block
4) Poor connection of pos. or neg. cables at the starter motor
5) Seized or defective starter motor. (you say you tested it off the car, if so, did the solenoid engage, and did the gear that engages to the flywheel spin?)
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Fill out your profile, maybe there's someone close to you that could lend a hand troubleshooting.
Have you tried rotating the crank both ways? How much force are you exerting on it?
Have you tried rotating the crank both ways? How much force are you exerting on it?
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Burning Brakes
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From: Slinger WI
That is a sure way to get people to post, NOT! There is alot of knowledgeable people here, that somebody always learns a new trick here from others. I would start with VATS circuit. Try this site out, vatssucks.com
Oh and one more thing, I would NOT go and be cranking on the crankshaft pulley / balancer bolt too much. Those bolts can strip out readily easy. Are you really putting that much force, and the crank will not rotate? Can you pry the flywheel and make the flyweel rotate? I would try prying on the flywheel teeeth, CAREFULLY! you will have a little extra leverage that way also. I have never really heard of an engine, in a normal environment, locking up tight, on its own, in 1 months time.
Oh and one more thing, I would NOT go and be cranking on the crankshaft pulley / balancer bolt too much. Those bolts can strip out readily easy. Are you really putting that much force, and the crank will not rotate? Can you pry the flywheel and make the flyweel rotate? I would try prying on the flywheel teeeth, CAREFULLY! you will have a little extra leverage that way also. I have never really heard of an engine, in a normal environment, locking up tight, on its own, in 1 months time.
Last edited by lltrevino; Mar 12, 2009 at 01:34 PM.
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Rereading your 1st post, one can conclude that it didn´t froze. You spoke of not enough juice, maybe there was enough juice but the starter was on it´s way out.
I would have the starter checked again.
How often has the car been driven the past year?
Has it been standing for a long time before you got it?
Did you do a tune up-fresh oil before you started driving the car?
How is the alternator?
Often when the battery dies, the alternator goes as well, or the other way arround.
As said before, I would really look at the starter one more time, because as stated before, very unlikely that the engine froze.
What temps do you live in?
I would have the starter checked again.
How often has the car been driven the past year?
Has it been standing for a long time before you got it?
Did you do a tune up-fresh oil before you started driving the car?
How is the alternator?
Often when the battery dies, the alternator goes as well, or the other way arround.
As said before, I would really look at the starter one more time, because as stated before, very unlikely that the engine froze.
What temps do you live in?
Le Mans Master
Joined: Feb 2002
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From: Waldorf MD
Two days without any show from Spikeroo . . .But then he let the car sit for over 2 weeks after putting in a new battery and not resolving his problem.
Spikeroo, first you said you took off the starter and checked it out (it was fine) and then put it back on. Later you said the starter was off. Which is it?
From first post, " I took the starter off and tested it, and it was perfect. So I put it back on and then tried taking all the spark plugs out, "
From #23 post, "Ok this is what the status is.
No Starter on
No Spark Plugs in
No belts on"
Why would you take off the starter the second time? Or, can't you keep your story straight? I still think you are a troll.
Also, I would not let your sparkplugs out for any length of time (parts could corrode).
Lastly, if he rocks it or turns the crank both ways, couldn't he loosen the crank bolt ?
Last edited by Oldvetter; Mar 13, 2009 at 03:29 PM.
Melting Slicks
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From: Austin Texas
Two days without any show from Spikeroo . . .But then he let the car sit for over 2 weeks after putting in a new battery and not resolving his problem.
Spikeroo, first you said you took off the starter and checked it out (it was fine) and then put it back on. Later you said the starter was off. Which is it?
From first post, " I took the starter off and tested it, and it was perfect. So I put it back on and then tried taking all the spark plugs out, "
From #23 post, "Ok this is what the status is.
No Starter on
No Spark Plugs in
No belts on"
Why would you take off the starter the second time? Or, can't you keep your story straight? I still think you are a troll.
Also, I would not let your sparkplugs out for any length of time (parts could corrode).
Lastly, if he rocks it or turns the crank both ways, couldn't he loosen the crank bolt ?
...and yet he presses us for answers with comments like this:Please everyone. Give me more options here!!
OK, here's the best Option:
1) Have a competent mechanic come over and determine what is wrong with your car.
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Cruising
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Your problem is more than likely electrical :
1) Weak or defective battery (even a new battery could be DOA)
2) Poor connection of pos. or neg. battery cable
3) Poor connection of neg. cable to block
4) Poor connection of pos. or neg. cables at the starter motor
5) Seized or defective starter motor. (you say you tested it off the car, if so, did the solenoid engage, and did the gear that engages to the flywheel spin?)
1) Weak or defective battery (even a new battery could be DOA)
2) Poor connection of pos. or neg. battery cable
3) Poor connection of neg. cable to block
4) Poor connection of pos. or neg. cables at the starter motor
5) Seized or defective starter motor. (you say you tested it off the car, if so, did the solenoid engage, and did the gear that engages to the flywheel spin?)
I'm sorry you missed me so much oldervetter, I'm back now. I don't get on the computer much, only for buisness purposes. But I'm glad to know someone cares
I will consider getting my car checked by a mechanic. If anyones in the Florida, Brevard area who are generous enough to pay me a visit and help me with this, Please let me know.
Last edited by Spikeroo; Mar 26, 2009 at 11:00 AM.
Le Mans Master
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 6,937
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From: Waldorf MD
Welcome back Spikeroo.
Sorry I thought you were a troll, guess you are "for real".
Hope you get that Corvette fixed.
And when you do, take it easy, being 16 years old and in a Corvette can lead to some dangerous acts. Be safe !
Sorry I thought you were a troll, guess you are "for real".
Hope you get that Corvette fixed.
And when you do, take it easy, being 16 years old and in a Corvette can lead to some dangerous acts. Be safe !