C4 Tech/Performance L98 Corvette and LT1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine

Just Got Back From TPIS

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 29, 2009 | 08:57 PM
  #21  
Orr89rocz's Avatar
Orr89rocz
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,080
Likes: 2
From: Pittsburgh PA
Default

What are they 24's? Could work. They will be done at about 350whp so 330-340 will be putting them at higher cycle duty but should be ok.

But its not a bad idea to replace old stock parts
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2009 | 09:05 PM
  #22  
GS4-LT1's Avatar
GS4-LT1
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 751
Likes: 0
From: Eau Claire Wisconsin
Default

Originally Posted by Orr89rocz
What are they 24's? Could work. They will be done at about 350whp so 330-340 will be putting them at higher cycle duty but should be ok.

But its not a bad idea to replace old stock parts
Yes, stock 24's, thats why I was thinking that an afpr would take up some slack. What fuel control if any is done through PCM tuning. (I know nothing about PCM tuning)
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2009 | 09:19 PM
  #23  
l98tpi's Avatar
l98tpi
Max G’s
Supporting Lifetime Gold
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,751
Likes: 78
From: Monroe OH
NCM Sinkhole Donor
Default

My guess is 12.8 sec 1/4 mile. Be sure to let us know how you do. Good Luck.

Also, I've had good luck with TPIS so far and they are knowledgable about their products and the C4. As far as pricing, I think they are very competetive with other manufacturers. I've shopped them on the parts I have purchased and some parts are slightly more and some are slightly less. What I can say for sure is that I've not been disappointed with any of their products yet.
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2009 | 09:21 PM
  #24  
GS4-LT1's Avatar
GS4-LT1
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 751
Likes: 0
From: Eau Claire Wisconsin
Default

Originally Posted by Pete K
400 rear wheel hp is enough to run 11.70 @ 116 give or take.
400 at the tires would be about 480-500 at the crank with an auto, right?
Are these the numbers you where running with yours Pete?
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2009 | 09:24 PM
  #25  
Pete K's Avatar
Pete K
Race Director
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 12,517
Likes: 19
Default

Originally Posted by GS4-LT1
400 at the tires would be about 480-500 at the crank with an auto, right?
Are these the numbers you where running with yours Pete?
My ride made 307 hp and 377 torque at the wheels to run 12.02
With spray, I made 449 hp and 597 ft lbs at the wheels to run 10.97.
Best Mph on spray was 129.997, with 126 mph being typical.
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2009 | 09:27 PM
  #26  
GS4-LT1's Avatar
GS4-LT1
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 751
Likes: 0
From: Eau Claire Wisconsin
Default

Originally Posted by l98tpi
My guess is 12.8 sec 1/4 mile. Be sure to let us know how you do. Good Luck.

Also, I've had good luck with TPIS so far and they are knowledgable about their products and the C4. As far as pricing, I think they are very competetive with other manufacturers. I've shopped them on the parts I have purchased and some parts are slightly more and some are slightly less. What I can say for sure is that I've not been disappointed with any of their products yet.
12.8 would be great, I would be very happy with that. The track here (Rock Falls Raceway) is a little on the slow side and not known for the best traction. When I go next month I will post my slips for sure.
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2009 | 09:29 PM
  #27  
GS4-LT1's Avatar
GS4-LT1
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 751
Likes: 0
From: Eau Claire Wisconsin
Default

Originally Posted by Pete K
My ride made 307 hp and 377 torque at the wheels to run 12.02
With spray, I made 449 hp and 597 ft lbs at the wheels to run 10.97.
Best Mph on spray was 129.997, with 126 mph being typical.
Those are impressive numbers Pete!!! What was that in? Do you still have it?
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2009 | 09:33 PM
  #28  
Pete K's Avatar
Pete K
Race Director
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 12,517
Likes: 19
Default

Originally Posted by GS4-LT1
Those are impressive numbers Pete!!! What was that in? Do you still have it?
That is the same combo I am running now.
Most of the et comes from the launch. 1.550 60' times are typical on a good day. I know a good converter guy My combo uses the torque, as I only shift at 5200 rpm, and cross the line at 4800 rpm.

On the spray, it is a different beast. Runs like it's got rabies.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every Model vs Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

2027 Corvette Buyer's Guide: Everything You Need to Know!

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

10 Things C8 Corvette Owners Hate (But Won't Tell You)

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

10 Best Corvettes Coming to Barrett-Jackson Palm Beach 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-6

Every Corvette Grand Sport Explained! (C2, C4, C6, C7, & C8)

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

Grand Sport & Grand Sport X Launch Alongside All-New 535hp LS6 V8!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

5 Reasons Bad Drivers Crash & 5 Ways to Avoid a Costly Mistake!

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

7 Bolt-On Upgrades From Extreme Online Store to Level Up Your C6 Corvette

 Pouria Savadkouei
Old Mar 29, 2009 | 09:37 PM
  #29  
GS4-LT1's Avatar
GS4-LT1
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 751
Likes: 0
From: Eau Claire Wisconsin
Default

Originally Posted by Pete K
That is the same combo I am running now.
Most of the et comes from the launch. 1.550 60' times are typical on a good day. I know a good converter guy My combo uses the torque, as I only shift at 5200 rpm, and cross the line at 4800 rpm.

On the spray, it is a different beast. Runs like it's got rabies.
Hey, I know that converter guy to!
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2009 | 10:49 PM
  #30  
l98tpi's Avatar
l98tpi
Max G’s
Supporting Lifetime Gold
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,751
Likes: 78
From: Monroe OH
NCM Sinkhole Donor
Default

Originally Posted by Pete K
My ride made 307 hp and 377 torque at the wheels to run 12.02
With spray, I made 449 hp and 597 ft lbs at the wheels to run 10.97.
Best Mph on spray was 129.997, with 126 mph being typical.
That is good. I'm sure a lot of that time is due to the driver. I'm an autoxr, not a dragr, but have ran a couple of times down the drag strip. I have a a 700r4, 3.07 rar, and stock converter which is I think 1,200 stall. The best I've done has been 13.746. I did figure out I needed to put the car in third gear and let it run on out instead of letting it go to 4th. I'll try it next time I run the 1/4. I'm not sure about power last time I ran the 1/4, but I just got my car back from set up and it was dyno tuned at 250hp and 362 lb/ft torque at the wheels.
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2009 | 11:35 PM
  #31  
pologreen1's Avatar
pologreen1
Team Owner
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 20,974
Likes: 261
Default

cool good luck
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2009 | 11:37 PM
  #32  
Orr89rocz's Avatar
Orr89rocz
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,080
Likes: 2
From: Pittsburgh PA
Default

Originally Posted by GS4-LT1
400 at the tires would be about 480-500 at the crank with an auto, right?
Are these the numbers you where running with yours Pete?
400 tires is close to 480ish crank. Everyone says 20% loss with auto but its hard to say how much is lost thru transmissions.

My 3450lb car went 11.4's at 118-119mph with a 1.55 60 foot with 400whp. 150 shot which i dont think i was getting a complete 150hp shot out of it, i went 10.6's at 127-128
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2009 | 11:56 PM
  #33  
GS4-LT1's Avatar
GS4-LT1
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 751
Likes: 0
From: Eau Claire Wisconsin
Default

I think with these new parts my gears and converter will be more at home. I really do not want to go to 3.73's, I think 3.55's are a good compromise, especially with first gear of the 4L60.

I ran 4.56 gears with a TH350 and 26" tall M&H Racemasters on my 68 GS. Cruising at 45-50 mph on the highway is a PITA, going out of town with it was next to never.

The first gear launch in that car though, was breathtaking. I do miss my GS a little
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2009 | 12:05 AM
  #34  
Demonic85's Avatar
Demonic85
Team Owner
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 24,460
Likes: 7
From: sw Ohio
Default

Originally Posted by JackDidley
TPIS, the people are like drug dealers. I got addicted. I need the parts. Headers, they lied and said "sure we have them in stock." Three weeks later I got them. At the time they were the best choice, they fit great, they are coated, they are overpriced and I had to have them. Miniram, way overpriced but I had to have it. Glad I got it, but damn a $1200 intake ?? Yes I would do it again because I"m hooked. Got to have good parts. I am probably not the only one.
they have some great parts but they just cost too much. If I could get the whole mini ram for $800 i'd buy it.
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2009 | 06:59 AM
  #35  
rodj's Avatar
rodj
Le Mans Master
25 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 8,838
Likes: 31
From: Australia
Default

Originally Posted by GS4-LT1
I ran 4.56 gears with a TH350 my 68 GS. The first gear launch in that car though, was breathtaking.
Going to be similar
4.56 T350 = 11.4 1st gear
3.55 4L60 = 10.9 1st gear

Only now you have the equivalent of a 2.5 rear in O/d 4th
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2009 | 02:20 PM
  #36  
Firevette's Avatar
Firevette
Safety Car
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 3,531
Likes: 1
From: Conroe TEXAS!
Cruise-In X Veteran
Default

Originally Posted by Demonic85
they have some great parts but they just cost too much. If I could get the whole mini ram for $800 i'd buy it.
I got mine used for that, here on the forum.



Ive had a few different experiences with TPIS. Lately they have been very helpful, they got me the parts I needed for the miniram install ASAP. (waterneck and throttle bracket)

I will second, Call them! Dont bother with E-mail.
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2009 | 02:31 PM
  #37  
Kubs's Avatar
Kubs
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 5
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 9,658
Likes: 3,355
From: Akron Ohio
2025 Corvette of the Year Finalist - Modified
2024 C5 of the Year Winner - Modified
2023 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
2022 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
St. Jude Donor '09-'10-'11
Default

I only had one experience with TPiS and it was very good. I like to call places anyway so I called and asked about a set of headers. They told me they didnt have any made and it would be a few weeks before they shipped. They came when expected and I never had any issues. Just one persons experience though.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Just Got Back From TPIS

Old Mar 30, 2009 | 02:54 PM
  #38  
BrianCunningham's Avatar
BrianCunningham
Team Owner
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 30,837
Likes: 289
From: Boston, Dallas, Detroit, SoCal, back to Boston MA
Default

Looking forward to your results
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2009 | 03:22 PM
  #39  
rickneworleansla's Avatar
rickneworleansla
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 5,141
Likes: 7
From: Metairie Louisiana
Default

Originally Posted by GS4-LT1
Jim at TPIS said I should be in the 400 hp range at the crank.
Needless to say I can't wait till the track opens next month, I hope that Benz is there!!!
Originally Posted by Pete K
400 rear wheel hp is enough to run 11.70 @ 116 give or take.
I think he's expecting 400 at the crank. It should run good whatever it makes.




I was wondering what the specs on the ZZ409 were. Is this correct?

226/226, Lift .520/.520. 112 LSA

Last edited by rickneworleansla; Mar 30, 2009 at 03:33 PM.
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2009 | 04:33 PM
  #40  
GS4-LT1's Avatar
GS4-LT1
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 751
Likes: 0
From: Eau Claire Wisconsin
Default

Originally Posted by rickreeves1
I think he's expecting 400 at the crank. It should run good whatever it makes.




I was wondering what the specs on the ZZ409 were. Is this correct?

226/226, Lift .520/.520. 112 LSA
Rick,
Yes those are correct. They list the lift with 1.5 rockers though. My 1.6's comes out to .555/.555 lift. Gotta love roller cams!
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:27 AM.

story-0
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every Model vs Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-20 17:58:41


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE
story-2
5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

Slideshow: 5 most and least popular Corvette model years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-08 13:25:01


VIEW MORE
story-3
2027 Corvette Buyer's Guide: Everything You Need to Know!

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette buyer's guide

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-17 16:41:08


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Things C8 Corvette Owners Hate (But Won't Tell You)

Slideshow: 10 things C8 Corvette owners hate, but won't tell you.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-01 18:36:07


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Best Corvettes Coming to Barrett-Jackson Palm Beach 2026!

Slideshow: Should you add one of these incredible Corvettes to your garage?

By Brett Foote | 2026-04-01 18:14:05


VIEW MORE
story-6
Every Corvette Grand Sport Explained! (C2, C4, C6, C7, & C8)

Slideshow: Every Corvette Grand Sport explained

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-26 07:13:44


VIEW MORE
story-7
Grand Sport & Grand Sport X Launch Alongside All-New 535hp LS6 V8!

Slideshow: Breaking down the 2027 Grand Sport, Grand Sport X, Stingray, and LS6 V8.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-03-26 13:48:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
5 Reasons Bad Drivers Crash & 5 Ways to Avoid a Costly Mistake!

Slideshow: 5 reasons bad drivers crash sports cars & 5 ways to avoid a costly shame!

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-25 16:32:55


VIEW MORE
story-9
7 Bolt-On Upgrades From Extreme Online Store to Level Up Your C6 Corvette

Slideshow: Check out these easy-to-install upgrades from Extreme Online Store that reshape the look and feel of the C6 Corvette.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-03-23 17:00:27


VIEW MORE