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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 11:13 AM
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I have some valve smoke not terrible but enough. Is it worth it to replace the seals, or should i try one of those "restore" products.

I also had been adised to wait and just throw another crate engine in it?


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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 11:25 AM
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how much oil is it going thru?
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by shamdave
I have some valve smoke not terrible but enough. Is it worth it to replace the seals, or should i try one of those "restore" products.

Any ideas? Thoughts?
Dave:

I am not sure how many miles you have on your new Vette, but the L98 engines usually need to have valve guides and seals when they get somewhere in the 75,000 mile range. You should shop around and see what your local shops charge for this service. The L98 is a solid engine and if properly maintained it should give you years of good reliable service.
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 12:05 PM
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Send me the money you would spend on the restore products, you will get the same results.

Valve guide seals are easy enough to replace with the engine in the car, but if you are having smoke while running down the road I doubt its the seals. Might be time for the motor. Do a compression test and a cylinder leakage test and see where you are loosing the cylinder sealing.
Good luck.
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 12:32 PM
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It has 91k on it. It does smoke a LITTLE going down the road but stops after the motor is warmed. It uses about a quart every 2 weeks
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 01:09 PM
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Bad valve seals will give a puff of smoke just at start up. More when it's warm. Most oil use during driving is the rings.
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 01:16 PM
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Bad valve seals will give a puff of smoke just at start up. More when it's warm. Most oil use during driving is the rings.
It is a puff during start up and slight (i mean slight) some times untill it gets warm

I can not even see it from the reirw view mirror. I had a buddy follow me. I am 99% it is the valve seals but I know a rebuild is in my future (hopefully this will last a couple more years)
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 01:57 PM
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A L98 engine should last a whole lot longer than 91,000 miles. Sounds to me like you want a crate motor with a (Lot More Power)...WW
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 02:16 PM
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A L98 engine should last a whole lot longer than 91,000 miles. Sounds to me like you want a crate motor with a (Lot More Power)...WW
True dat But done misunderstand this motor has a ton a life in it. I just want to try to head off a more serious problem later. So will this band aid help or is it a waste of time? Could it make things worse faster?
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I don't think that it will make it worse, but from what I have heard it doesn't do much to fix the problem. As far as I can see there are 2 things you can do, drive it like it is, or fix it right by putting in new seals.Its just going to keep getting worse if you don't..Seals aren't that big of a deal ....WW

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Originally Posted by shamdave
It has 91k on it. It does smoke a LITTLE going down the road but stops after the motor is warmed. It uses about a quart every 2 weeks
Every 2 weeks! How many miles is that?
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 03:51 PM
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Every 2 weeks! How many miles is that?
Dont know... not sure i ever looked i would say 300-500
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sounds broken if it's 2 quarts every 300-500 miles
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sounds like valve seals,mine is an 86 with 180,000 miles and does the same thing every couple of weeks,1 quart.little smoky on startup but not bad.still has plenty of power just keep her lubed.
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Avoid the mechanic in a bottle solution. Valve seals are an inexpensive fix and can make a huge difference. I don't want to discourage you, but something doesn't sound quite right...no question the valve seals on an 18 year old engine pushing close to 100,000 miles have probably outlived their effectiveness, but it is using a substantial amount of oil and if the oil burning is visible when the engine is running and warm and someone following you notices it - I think it would be a good idea to do a compression test before going any further. If all cylinders are consistent (perhaps lower than preferred) and the engine is still running strong it is probably worth just doing the seals to see what difference this makes. ...my $.02
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by pletzvet
Avoid the mechanic in a bottle solution. Valve seals are an inexpensive fix and can make a huge difference. I don't want to discourage you, but something doesn't sound quite right...no question the valve seals on an 18 year old engine pushing close to 100,000 miles have probably outlived their effectiveness, but it is using a substantial amount of oil and if the oil burning is visible when the engine is running and warm and someone following you notices it - I think it would be a good idea to do a compression test before going any further. If all cylinders are consistent (perhaps lower than preferred) and the engine is still running strong it is probably worth just doing the seals to see what difference this makes. ...my $.02
cool good advice. The valve seals were only like 20 bucks and i am looking at 160 in labor so it may be worth it. Like i said she still will chirp them all the way to 4th gear (new tranny)
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by RacerX70CC
sounds broken if it's 2 quarts every 300-500 miles
Two quarts in 300 miles equates to a smoke generator. I kinda wonder if this guesstimate is correct. Seals, with the correct equipment can be done in an afternoon. Back to the oil use,what do the plugs look like?
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 09:35 AM
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I agree that is a lot of oil for just valve seals. As long as you keep it full of oil that will not be a cause of complete failure.
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 09:55 AM
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My car smokes on start-up and my wife said one day it smokes a little bit when she was following me. My car uses about a quart between oil changes. (I don't think that is excessive) It is a 89 with 113K on it. I ordered valve seals and since I was going to be doing seals I just ordered 1.6 roller rockers. My car runs strong as well. If you want to wait a week or two I will let you know how I make out. I think I will be doing my project weekend after next.
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FOr what is is worth try SEAFOAM run a can try the intake by using the vacuum line off the booster and dump a can in the tank and fill with super premium. a lot of the gang here will swear by it and you won't hurt anything but clean the crap out of the intake system. DO IT OUTSIDE when you run it threw the vac line and you might need to give it a little gas.

a L98 will last a long time.

GOOD LUCK wro87
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