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Old May 7, 2009 | 09:49 AM
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One possible option for fixing my LT4 (spun bearing) is to replace the short block with an LT1 (4-bolt main). I know the pistons, rings and crank are a little different - how much impact does this have on the rev limit?
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none.. lt1 corvette blocks are all the same. the new motor will have equal or better rings and should be performance oriented to handle the rpm.
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The LT1 block I'm looking at is completely stock, new.
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http://www.grandsportregistry.com/lt1vslt4.htm
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Yep, I know - the factory redline on the LT1 is several hundred RPM below the LT4, and 100 RPM under the LT4's peak HP RPM. I guess what I'm asking is how much of that difference is attributable to the short block itself? I read somewhere that the max RPM for LT1 rods is about 6200 RPM. If this is true, then I'd likely need to lower the rev limiter?
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Read the link, it's all in there.

The cranks are machined differently.

I wouldn't rev it as high.

BTW the fully forged rotating assembly for my stoker was around $1500
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Originally Posted by pianoguy
One possible option for fixing my LT4 (spun bearing) is to replace the short block with an LT1 (4-bolt main). I know the pistons, rings and crank are a little different - how much impact does this have on the rev limit?
whats up with all these LT4's spinning bearings?

Any reason you do not want to do a rebuild? The LT4 is the best gen 1 small block ever made by gm so why downgrade to a LT1?

1 step forward, 2 steps backwards.........
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Thanks, Brian - I hadn't read all the details.

I was just looking to see if I could save a big chunk of dough, but there is no free lunch ;-)
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It's very possible that all you need to replace is the crank, the bearing set and possibly the rod where the bearing spun. The Rod and bearings are fairly inexpensive, the crank may not be. But, there are alot of people on this forum and I'm sure elsewhere that upgraded to a stroker that just might have the LT4 crank sitting in box in the basement somewhere.

Check out ebay, put a WTB post in the for sale section. You might be suprised.
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Seen many threads about the LT4s mainly but many LT1s too spinnign bearings, some of them with low miles too. Some member posted here a week or so about his sub 30k mile car spinning one, I dont get it.
Has to be a design fault somewhere, they just cant "go bad" like that.
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Is there much cost difference between the LT1 short block and having your LT4 crank turned 10 - 10, new mains and rod bearings and reassembled?
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I don't have a firm number - haven't pulled the engine yet.
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Drop the pan and see what's up.
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Originally Posted by pianoguy
One possible option for fixing my LT4 (spun bearing) is to replace the short block with an LT1 (4-bolt main). I know the pistons, rings and crank are a little different - how much impact does this have on the rev limit?
which cylinder was it that the bearing spun on ?

thanks
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The cost of pulling the engine is in either scenario fix old or replace with new short block....You will basically have a new engine with the short block...in either scenario...depending on miles...you will want to have the heads worked....new oil pump....and new gaskets.... etc...You might save some time... At the end of the day..with the short block in the hole ..you have another block and parts to start a 383...when the other engine goes south.
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Originally Posted by pushrod-v8
whats up with all these LT4's spinning bearings?

Any reason you do not want to do a rebuild? The LT4 is the best gen 1 small block ever made by gm so why downgrade to a LT1?

1 step forward, 2 steps backwards.........
The LT-1/4 Block is the Gen-II.

R/Noland
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Originally Posted by BlackHarleyMan
The LT-1/4 Block is the Gen-II.

R/Noland

I always refer to the SBC up until the ls1 came out as a 1st gen small block.
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Originally Posted by ChrisWhewell
which cylinder was it that the bearing spun on ?

thanks
i did a search and found you were tracking the spun bearing issue on the LT1/LT4 motors. Any patterens you see?
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Originally Posted by ChrisWhewell
which cylinder was it that the bearing spun on ?

thanks
I'll let you know as soon as I know for sure - sounds like either 6 or 8.
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Originally Posted by pushrod-v8
I always refer to the SBC up until the ls1 came out as a 1st gen small block.
Why?
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