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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 02:19 PM
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Pete and or any other knowledgable person,

Is there anyway to get an early 700R (85 corvette) with shift kit to shift above 4800 rpm. Currently shifting by hand at 6500 rpm. One of my friends says we should be able to, but have had the trans to several shops and they cannot get it to shift above 4800.

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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 02:37 PM
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yep just mod up the governer remove/add weight to it for differnt RPM changes. If you have a stock TPI it's not going to help you.
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 03:36 PM
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some here have played with weights, or modified for different shift points
Aardwolf is one I think that posted pics of his while he worked on them, and I am sure more

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...nor-recal.html
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 03:54 PM
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yep just mod up the governer remove/add weight to it for differnt RPM changes. If you have a stock TPI it's not going to help you.


Mine has been adjusted to shift @ 5000 (under heavy acceleration) with a governor weight mod by my local "custom" trany shop.
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by engle1147


Mine has been adjusted to shift @ 5000 (under heavy acceleration) with a governor weight mod by my local "custom" trany shop.
I understand the weights and such, but 6500, is it possible, otherwise it is not worth screwing with.
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by T. Wayne Nelson
I understand the weights and such, but 6500, is it possible, otherwise it is not worth screwing with.
I don't know what the upper RPM limits are with weight mods.....lighter weights make the WOT shift points go up and the heavier weights make the WOT shift points go down. Typical weights only weigh 10 - 20 grams each. You may end up changing the valve body springs to increase the shift points to what your after.....Pete K would/will know which direction to lead you down for sure.
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by pologreen1
some here have played with weights, or modified for different shift points
Aardwolf is one I think that posted pics of his while he worked on them, and I am sure more

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...nor-recal.html

Good thread!
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by engle1147
I don't know what the upper RPM limits are with weight mods.....lighter weights make the WOT shift points go up and the heavier weights make the WOT shift points go down. Typical weights only weigh 10 - 20 grams each. You may end up changing the valve body springs to increase the shift points to what your after.....Pete K would/will know which direction to lead you down for sure.
I have a shift kit installed at this time, is that going to change the equation. I have had this transmission built, or i would switch to the electronic.
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 09:41 PM
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It only takes 10 mins to change and grind the weights but to get it where you want it you might make make 10-20 attempts. 6,500 RPM is possible. You can attempt to grind your weights down but you may want to have a gov recal kit on hand if you make them to light. Or you could weld weight on to correct. A shift kit won't change the shift RPM.
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6500 is possible. When I was tweaking my gov I made a big change. Went out for a datalog and at WOT I saw close to 7000. Didnt do that again.
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ok- if I am reading this correctly we can do this for all shifts at least the 1-2 shift and the 2-3 shift. Up on the rack and then down for a test drive then back up etc, etc... Wonder what they will want to charge me for that...
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I have the problem of being at WOT and the trans will not up shift unless I back off the throttle for half second. Is this weight adding/removing related?

Good Thread
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by T. Wayne Nelson
ok- if I am reading this correctly we can do this for all shifts at least the 1-2 shift and the 2-3 shift. Up on the rack and then down for a test drive then back up etc, etc... Wonder what they will want to charge me for that...
Buy a couple of kits and try it yourself. You only need to jack up the driver's side of the car. You can use lighter weights and lighter springs to get the car to shift at a higher rpm. The only problem is that it will also affect the part throttle shifts. I must have had my car up and down 20 or 30 times trying to dial it in. I was filing weights, adding solder to weights. Came close, but not perfect. Switched to a 4l60e with a stand alone controller. Part and full throttle shifts can be dialed in with a laptop.
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 07:37 AM
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I had a transmission shop raise the shift point of my 86. I had it set a 5700. I used a B&M recalibration kit. $35 for the kit and $200 Labor. It does require some time to get it right.
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Originally Posted by 383vett
Buy a couple of kits and try it yourself. You only need to jack up the driver's side of the car. You can use lighter weights and lighter springs to get the car to shift at a higher rpm. The only problem is that it will also affect the part throttle shifts. I must have had my car up and down 20 or 30 times trying to dial it in. I was filing weights, adding solder to weights. Came close, but not perfect. Switched to a 4l60e with a stand alone controller. Part and full throttle shifts can be dialed in with a laptop.
It sounds like that the next time I blow it up, I will change to the electronic trans.

Thanks everyone....
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The local trans guy that I trust around here thinks the 4L60E is weaker.
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 12:33 PM
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Pete K doesn't hang out here much anymore.
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 02:52 PM
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You can dial them in pretty easily with a $30 kit. With a kit you can always revert back to your older setting. Otherwise you’ll grind and adjust springs 30 times plus. Me I prefer to hand shift "the shift points”. I just put in a transgo 2-3 and didn’t mess with the govy.

I like chirping tires with my 2:59 gears LOL



oh and 4l6e is not weak if you build it right (max600-700HP safley)
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 03:02 PM
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He was concerned about the aluminum valve body allowing the case to twist more compared to the iron valve body in the 4L60.
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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 10:44 PM
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Okay, I don't know much about transmissions, especially setting them for shifts on the 700r4/4l60. My shop manual says the only way to set the shift points is through the TV Cable adjustment. Please enlighten me.
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