Tilt Steering Column Pivot Pins
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Tilt Steering Column Pivot Pins
I've asked this question before but never got an answer. Thought I'd try again.
On a '90, if you remove the driver's side lower trim panel and the bolster that sits above it,, can you see the pivot pins?
If not -- aside from disassembling the steering column -- is there any way to get to the pins so I can do the JB Weld trick on them?
Thanks.
On a '90, if you remove the driver's side lower trim panel and the bolster that sits above it,, can you see the pivot pins?
If not -- aside from disassembling the steering column -- is there any way to get to the pins so I can do the JB Weld trick on them?
Thanks.
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Well, here's why I'm asking. This is from a post in the archives:
<Snip> Is there a way to tighten the excess play in my tilt wheel? It moves up and down about a half inch once I select my driving position. I removed a few plastic pieces around the base of the steering column and saw a flat head screw with a threaded center located just below the tilt lever. Would tightening this help and do I need a special tool for it? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks <unsnip>
That would be the position of the pivot pins which have a threaded center.
I'm just wondering what "few plastic pieces" can be removed to expose the pivot pins.
Anyone?
<Snip> Is there a way to tighten the excess play in my tilt wheel? It moves up and down about a half inch once I select my driving position. I removed a few plastic pieces around the base of the steering column and saw a flat head screw with a threaded center located just below the tilt lever. Would tightening this help and do I need a special tool for it? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks <unsnip>
That would be the position of the pivot pins which have a threaded center.
I'm just wondering what "few plastic pieces" can be removed to expose the pivot pins.
Anyone?
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I thik he is talking about the plastic shrouds around the column. MIne is a little loose from the previous owner be ing a lazy a$$ and pulling him self out the car with the steering wheel.
I am just going to use the JB weld, but have not gotten around to it, and mine is not that noticable yet, but I plan to take off the wheel, and just put some jb in there. I am removing this steering wheel eventuall anyway I HATE IT.
I am just going to use the JB weld, but have not gotten around to it, and mine is not that noticable yet, but I plan to take off the wheel, and just put some jb in there. I am removing this steering wheel eventuall anyway I HATE IT.
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Pologreen1 --
I bought the 90 a few months ago and have been working my way through the 'broke list'. I'm past the "have to" part and am now working the "want to" part (which is why I posted that seat belt light "fix" awhile ago today. I'm a lot better with electrical than mechanical so I did the electrical stuff first.)
Anyway, I've tried to eyeball the problem, I've searched the threads and I've gone all through the FSM but it appears that the shroud has to come off and I don't see how that can happen without taking a bunch of other stuff in the column off too. Yet, the poster says what he said and a former poster on the forum says he did it by taking a few trim covers off and then taking the two bolts loose and lowering the column. (He doesn't respond to PMs)
Anyhow, unless both are lying, it seems like it can be done.
Yet -- there is another thread where a guy claims his pins were so loose that they literally fell out while he was driving and he pulled over and put them back in. ?????
I'm just hoping that someone who has been all over the steering column can unequivocally say that no, you have to take the whole column apart to get to them, or yes, it can be done without doing the whole schmere and here's how.
I bought the 90 a few months ago and have been working my way through the 'broke list'. I'm past the "have to" part and am now working the "want to" part (which is why I posted that seat belt light "fix" awhile ago today. I'm a lot better with electrical than mechanical so I did the electrical stuff first.)
Anyway, I've tried to eyeball the problem, I've searched the threads and I've gone all through the FSM but it appears that the shroud has to come off and I don't see how that can happen without taking a bunch of other stuff in the column off too. Yet, the poster says what he said and a former poster on the forum says he did it by taking a few trim covers off and then taking the two bolts loose and lowering the column. (He doesn't respond to PMs)
Anyhow, unless both are lying, it seems like it can be done.
Yet -- there is another thread where a guy claims his pins were so loose that they literally fell out while he was driving and he pulled over and put them back in. ?????
I'm just hoping that someone who has been all over the steering column can unequivocally say that no, you have to take the whole column apart to get to them, or yes, it can be done without doing the whole schmere and here's how.
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Yes -- thanks, I've seen the link. It is a very good tutorial on how to tear down the steering column and if I have to do that, I'll use it.
Once again, I'm trying to determine if the threads on the forum which say that you can do the jb weld trick without tearing down the column are just wishful thinking or if it really can be done. If it were just one person saying it, I wouldn't be asking but there is more than one thread that says you can reach the pivot pins without tearing the column apart.
Please don't be offended. You guys are trying to help me and I very much appreciate your help. The thing is, isn't there someone on the forum who knows if these threads are right or wrong when they say you can remove a few easily removed parts, see the pivot pins and put the jb weld on them rather than taking the steering column apart. There has to be an answer to this question. If it's no, OK or if it's yes, OK. I am just asking someone who knows for sure to respond so I know how I have to proceed.
Once again, I'm trying to determine if the threads on the forum which say that you can do the jb weld trick without tearing down the column are just wishful thinking or if it really can be done. If it were just one person saying it, I wouldn't be asking but there is more than one thread that says you can reach the pivot pins without tearing the column apart.
Please don't be offended. You guys are trying to help me and I very much appreciate your help. The thing is, isn't there someone on the forum who knows if these threads are right or wrong when they say you can remove a few easily removed parts, see the pivot pins and put the jb weld on them rather than taking the steering column apart. There has to be an answer to this question. If it's no, OK or if it's yes, OK. I am just asking someone who knows for sure to respond so I know how I have to proceed.
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Yes -- thanks, I've seen the link. It is a very good tutorial on how to tear down the steering column and if I have to do that, I'll use it.
Once again, I'm trying to determine if the threads on the forum which say that you can do the jb weld trick without tearing down the column are just wishful thinking or if it really can be done. If it were just one person saying it, I wouldn't be asking but there is more than one thread that says you can reach the pivot pins without tearing the column apart.
Please don't be offended. You guys are trying to help me and I very much appreciate your help. The thing is, isn't there someone on the forum who knows if these threads are right or wrong when they say you can remove a few easily removed parts, see the pivot pins and put the jb weld on them rather than taking the steering column apart. There has to be an answer to this question. If it's no, OK or if it's yes, OK. I am just asking someone who knows for sure to respond so I know how I have to proceed.
Once again, I'm trying to determine if the threads on the forum which say that you can do the jb weld trick without tearing down the column are just wishful thinking or if it really can be done. If it were just one person saying it, I wouldn't be asking but there is more than one thread that says you can reach the pivot pins without tearing the column apart.
Please don't be offended. You guys are trying to help me and I very much appreciate your help. The thing is, isn't there someone on the forum who knows if these threads are right or wrong when they say you can remove a few easily removed parts, see the pivot pins and put the jb weld on them rather than taking the steering column apart. There has to be an answer to this question. If it's no, OK or if it's yes, OK. I am just asking someone who knows for sure to respond so I know how I have to proceed.
Period. :-)
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Josephf31, Thanks for the unequivocal NO. That's what I was asking for -- a straight up yes or a no. mrbonzia had said you pretty much have to take it apart but you say there is absolutely no way to get to the pins without taking the column apart. Not much room for doubt in that answer.
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The problem shown in post #6 is very common with GM columns and probably what you're experiencing. Takes a while to get to the bolts. You don't need to replace the bolts just locktight them.
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bolts can work loose, but 99% of the time the steering wheel play is caused by the worn pins/housing...
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Josephf31, Thanks for the unequivocal NO. That's what I was asking for -- a straight up yes or a no. mrbonzia had said you pretty much have to take it apart but you say there is absolutely no way to get to the pins without taking the column apart. Not much room for doubt in that answer.
