SUPERRAM plenum bolt options
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SUPERRAM plenum bolt options
I took my plenum back off already, and looking for plenum bolt options.
I really don't care much for the little bolts, and the slotted end on them, I know aardwolf used bolts with nyloc nuts or something, is this the only other option.
I just figure while I have it off AGAIN I might as well start making it sumpler to deal with.
how can I stud the runners?
thanks
I really don't care much for the little bolts, and the slotted end on them, I know aardwolf used bolts with nyloc nuts or something, is this the only other option.
I just figure while I have it off AGAIN I might as well start making it sumpler to deal with.
how can I stud the runners?
thanks
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yup I would like to just be able to set the plenum down on the runners and tighten it down.
It is not real bad installing the bolts from the bottom, but I don't have the patience for it, and since it is off, and I have the chance to change things, I am open to ideas.
thanks
It is not real bad installing the bolts from the bottom, but I don't have the patience for it, and since it is off, and I have the chance to change things, I am open to ideas.
thanks
Melting Slicks
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yup I would like to just be able to set the plenum down on the runners and tighten it down.
It is not real bad installing the bolts from the bottom, but I don't have the patience for it, and since it is off, and I have the chance to change things, I am open to ideas.
thanks
It is not real bad installing the bolts from the bottom, but I don't have the patience for it, and since it is off, and I have the chance to change things, I am open to ideas.
thanks
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yes, my set is new nut, been modified
runner holes are drilled out bigger than the plenum bolt holes
runners are all grinded down for easier bolt access
plenum bolts are slotted
etc
I already put it togetherit's not too bad , I could not fit my hand under the plenum for the inner bolts real well, so I used a strong magnet up in the plenum , and it sucked them right up in to the holes. and I used a screw driver to start them, but I want to make it that I can just set the plenum on and put nuts on the bolts and be done.
runner holes are drilled out bigger than the plenum bolt holes
runners are all grinded down for easier bolt access
plenum bolts are slotted
etc
I already put it togetherit's not too bad , I could not fit my hand under the plenum for the inner bolts real well, so I used a strong magnet up in the plenum , and it sucked them right up in to the holes. and I used a screw driver to start them, but I want to make it that I can just set the plenum on and put nuts on the bolts and be done.
Melting Slicks
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From: Santa Maria, CA
yes, my set is new nut, been modified
runner holes are drilled out bigger than the plenum bolt holes
runners are all grinded down for easier bolt access
plenum bolts are slotted
etc
I already put it togetherit's not too bad , I could not fit my hand under the plenum for the inner bolts real well, so I used a strong magnet up in the plenum , and it sucked them right up in to the holes. and I used a screw driver to start them, but I want to make it that I can just set the plenum on and put nuts on the bolts and be done.
runner holes are drilled out bigger than the plenum bolt holes
runners are all grinded down for easier bolt access
plenum bolts are slotted
etc
I already put it togetherit's not too bad , I could not fit my hand under the plenum for the inner bolts real well, so I used a strong magnet up in the plenum , and it sucked them right up in to the holes. and I used a screw driver to start them, but I want to make it that I can just set the plenum on and put nuts on the bolts and be done.
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You might want to do the same. It's unlikely that you would pull the stud out while tightening nuts, but there is a greater chance of stripping the runner threads, trying to tighten the bolts.
The studs also keep the plenum in place, during assembly.
The studs also keep the plenum in place, during assembly.
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Thread the runners, and screw in bolts from the underside of the runners. Essentially, you would have stude pointed up. Open up the plenum holes, set the plenum on the studs and tighten wingnuts on the studs (just kidding). You can use nylocks from above, just be careful you don't drop them down the runners. Actually, I don't remove the plenum top when I undo my superram. I just take the valve covers off, a few rocker arms off and use a 1/4" air ratchet and a 1/4" socket. Some of the bolts need a swivel. All but 2 of the bolts can be accessed with the air tool and makes it a pretty quick job. Because it's a race car, it only takes a few minutes to get the valve covers off.
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Thread the runners, and screw in bolts from the underside of the runners. Essentially, you would have stude pointed up. Open up the plenum holes, set the plenum on the studs and tighten wingnuts on the studs (just kidding). You can use nylocks from above, just be careful you don't drop them down the runners. Actually, I don't remove the plenum top when I undo my superram. I just take the valve covers off, a few rocker arms off and use a 1/4" air ratchet and a 1/4" socket. Some of the bolts need a swivel. All but 2 of the bolts can be accessed with the air tool and makes it a pretty quick job. Because it's a race car, it only takes a few minutes to get the valve covers off.
PS I already had the drop down the runner scare I have heard about, and thought would never happen,
I just took my grabber, and ducttaped a strong magnet to it, and ran it down the runner, and LUCKILY it sucked it right out, I am never going to let that happen again.
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Bought a second ram to try something out. dont know about it so much anymore.
Stud every runner bolt hole. Studs run all the way out the top of the plenum lid.
you never unbolt the plenum lid (I think a few plenum lid bolts will be in the way), you just slide it over the studs and tighten them down on the top of the plenum.
Sure, a few issues come up.
1st. The studs in the airflow path in the plenum.
2nd. potential leaks from the studs.
Plenum lip for the lid will need to be massaged to allow studs to clear.
Plenum lid fins will need to be machined flat for the nuts to seal flat to the surface. I would not machine the whole lid flat to keep the support, just the stud/bolt area.
Might need a gasket between the nut and the plenum lid surface, or Silicone.
Maybe use of those flat bottom nuts that flare out for a good sealing surface.
Install time should be greatly reduced. So who is going first.
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I just bought longer bolts, and nuts, I think I am going to try it out, all the way around, and probably from the top down, instead.
If I don't like it, I can always put the originals in, I am trying things out right now.
If I don't like it, I can always put the originals in, I am trying things out right now.
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should have bought a MINI LOL
